H.H. Pope Shenouda III, Latest weekly ceremony

edited October 2005 in Coptic Orthodox Church
Hello to all,
you can watch and listen to H.H. Pope Shenouda III ceremony( video and audio), at 9:30 PM " Egypt time" Today and at 10 O'clock and 12 Noon Tomorrow, Thursday
ÓæÝ íÊã ÇÚÇÏÉ ÅÐÇÚÉ ÇáãÍÇÖÑÉ ÇáÃÓÈæÚíÉ áÞÏÇÓÉ ÇáÈÇÈÇ
ÈÊÇÑíÎ 26-10-2005
ÇáÓÇÚÉ ÇáËÇãäÉ æÇáäÕÝ æÇáÓÇÚÉ ÇáÊÇÓÚÉ æÇáäÕÝ ãÓÇÁÇð ÈÊæÞíÊ Ì.ã.Ú
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Subject" concerning latest condition facing the Copts in Egypt

http://www.copticpope.org/index.php
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  • thanx for sharing this with us!!!
    GBU
  • More times to watch H.H., he was very emotional and in tears.
    It is according to Cairo' time.


    ÓæÝ íÊã ÇÚÇÏÉ ÅÐÇÚÉ ÇáãÍÇÖÑÉ ÇáÃÓÈæÚíÉ áÞÏÇÓÉ ÇáÈÇÈÇ
    ÈÊÇÑíÎ 26-10-2005
    Çáíæã ÇáÌãÚÉ ÇáãæÇÝÞ 28-10-2005 ÇáÓÇÚÉ ÇáÓÇÏÓÉ ãÓÇÁà æÇáÓÇÚÉ ÇáËÇãäÉ ãÓÇÁÇð ÈÊæÞíÊ Ì.ã.Ú
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  • May God bless him and protect his holiness always....and may God protect him wiht HIS angels against seen and unseen enemies....


    In HIS Name,


    RFZ
  • My Priest announced today that the Priests of the East Coast will be fasting 3 days -Monday till Wednesday for those in Egypt, everyone is welcome to join them, to pray and fast for our brethern.
  • yea, my priest announced that too, i think its coming from His Holiness but im not sure...
  • first no food, then u eat siyami food. try to fast as long as u can w/out any food. n dont forget to pray
  • i think they're doing the no food fasting for as long as you can, n then the rest of the day you do siami food...
  • of course.... may the power and glory of our holy Lord, Christ, and Saviour surround us all, and protect his people, the people of Egypt...

    btw, does anyone have any new news?

  • This is the ceremony of H.H. in Arabic, If anyone of dear friends of tasbeha is able to translate it to English, it would be very appreciated.





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  • Yes, Pope Shenouda III was in tears for what happened in Alexandria, I hope the persecution of Copts ends!

    Forever,
    Coptic Servent
  • [quote author=Coptic Servent link=board=4;threadid=2663;start=0#msg41385 date=1130708384]
    Yes, Pope Shenouda III was in tears for what happened in Alexandria, I hope the persecution of Copts ends!

    Forever,
    Coptic Servent


    amen to that

    just a reminder...the church is fasting and praying for 3 days...starting tomorrow until Wednesday...let's keep our church strong as it has always been!
  • [quote author=Marianne87 link=board=4;threadid=2663;start=0#msg41393 date=1130710990]
    [quote author=Coptic Servent link=board=4;threadid=2663;start=0#msg41385 date=1130708384]
    Yes, Pope Shenouda III was in tears for what happened in Alexandria, I hope the persecution of Copts ends!

    Forever,
    Coptic Servent


    amen to that

    just a reminder...the church is fasting and praying for 3 days...starting tomorrow until Wednesday...let's keep our church strong as it has always been!


    Why are we fasting for 3 days, and let us all pray with all our HEARTS that this fast will help us get a response from our Lord!

    Forever,
    Coptic Servent
  • we are fasting as a way of crying out to God about what is happening...
  • hey you guys theres something here http://www.rapidupload.com/dl.php?id=2443

    its a part of His Holiness's ceremony...
  • WHAT?????????

    no i heard that they said that with the priest, not HIS HOLINESS!

    r u sure....
  • [quote author=MarMar91 link=board=4;threadid=2663;start=15#msg41414 date=1130724826]
    do u know that the sheikh of the muslims released the blood of the pope, meaning they want to kill him.. :-\

    terrible..


    [quote author=Christ4Life link=board=4;threadid=2663;start=15#msg41415 date=1130725044]
    WHAT?????????

    no i heard that they said that with the priest, not HIS HOLINESS!

    r u sure....


    Ya, MarMar I think they were talking about the priest of the church, and I'm pretty sure of it too!

    Forever,
    Coptic Servent
  • [quote author=PopeKyrillos link=board=4;threadid=2663;start=15#msg41419 date=1130726562]
    I'm depressesed


    I am afraid that HH. will be martyred :'(

    The church needs his guidance :-\

    Please Pray and Fast for the next 3 days with all your heart! Let God hear our cry! I myself will not eat at all for the next 3 days, and pray constantly.

    I have a feeling this will lead to another age of persecution :(

    Remember the verse
    "If you have faith as little as a mustard seed you can say to a mountain move from here to there, and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you"



    Dear PopeKyrillos,
    I definitely agree with every word you said, especially, about the depression and we have to be positive, even it's not happening to us, we are also Copts, and I hope that Our Lord, will hear our prayers and our crys, we pray with the bottom of our hearts! Please God hear our prayers today!

    Forever,
    Coptic Servent
  • omg no, let us all pray with all our hearts and souls for the sake of the church and His Holiness....
  • Guys, i agree with all ur concerns and pain, but we have to remember, our church is BUILT on the blood of these martyrs. That is what makes us so strong, we have so much to ensure us of our faith. We should actually be happy for all those who die in these things, because they basically as abouna sorial once told us "have an ez-pass to heaven".
    :'(yea i too cant help but feel sad, but never forget that those who died like that, probably wanted to and were ready for it.

    -Pete

    PS: u guys are right, fast these 3 days diligintly and pray any chance u get, on the bus, in the halls, anytime u can.
  • yeah they did make the Popes Blood "HALAL".
    which means they want to kill him.................i was about to cry wen i heard this.
    may god protect him the things that they are doing in alexandira is disgusting and they need to be stopped.
    Here is a website where its stated...... its shocking
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008692.php
  • ya...I heard the some story about "ta7lil daam el papa"...they think that if they killed him...they will be doing some right...actually there is a verse about that written in the bible....I don't remember the Chapter now...but I think it goes something along with that and...."and when they kill you, they will think it's a favor to God"...
    It's scary and sad in the same time :'(..All what we should do is pray and fast....the Church needs us and we need her and we need the pope.
  • i saw the El Fager magazine, where they said that they wanted to kill the pope. let us all pray that God's Will be Done, the Church is firm and never shaken. Amen
  • You asked for a translation, though I believe myself to be illqualified, I did translate the begining.

    "On my mind there are lots of words to be said and in my heart there are lots more than that... But I prefer to stay silent... I chose to stay silent so that God Himself will speak... Rest assured that our silence is a much stronger expression... And God hears that silence and he knows its meaning and our suffering..."
    I couldn't even begin to show the emotions and the true meanings behind his words, I've only tried to translate the piece that touched my heart the most.
    May he be blessed forever,
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  • that was an amazing translation, please finish!
  • Thank you...
    I'm afraid my lunch hour is not long enough.. I will do my best to have all before the end of the day.
    hang tight,
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  • the whole lecture can actually be found here, on tasbeha.org...

    http://tasbeha.org/mp3/Videos/H.H._Pope_Shenouda_III.html, but for some unusual reason the audio cuts off after like, a minute and a half, so i downloaded it...
  • Here is the rest of sermon, translated for those who can't understand Arabic.
    "The verse that brings us comfort this night is the Lord saying, come to me all you worry and havey ladden and I shall give you rest. That is, come to me all you whose sorrow has burdened their lives and sometimes it became more than what you can bear. There's a lot of suffering in our days, some to persons, to groups, even to cities and suffering for the world as a whole. But still the people should look towards God for help. As He has taught us in the Bible in the Lord's prayer that we should say everyday and everyhour: but lead not into temptation but deliver us from every evil. God is the one who saves, but unfortunalty, how often is this prayer said not from the heart and with very little faith, insufficent faith and without inner understanding. And we in every pain that surrounds us, in all, we put the problems in front of God and leave them in his hand and we say let it be your will. If you want to solve the problem, let it be your will, and if you want us to be blessed by a cross for us to carry... (His holiness tears and the multitude applaused in understanding, a hymn is sang)"
  • After the hymn, the Pope resumes.
    "I said that we should put our troubles in front of God. And why in front of God? Because is He is all, He sees all things and He hears, and knows and is writen before him all. And because God knows all that is apprent and invisible, knows that which is happening and that which will occur in the future. And in His knowing, He is a good sheperd. Like it says in Ezekiel's chapter 34, (please refer to chapters for exact verse translation) Also in Isaih chapter 61. Our experience in the past with him shows us how He interfears and how he works, and when times get complicated and problems occur, we see how his mighty hand works in strength and clearity. And his interferance becomes obvious. And that's how the Bible tells us, laying all our pain and suffering on him, who takes care of us and delivers us... And the Bible says to us, that God does not tempt us or puts us into trials that we can not handle or endure and there's always a way, for Him to deliver us."
    guys, sorry, I have to stop here. I will translate the rest later tonight.
    Keep praying and fasting and may God bless and keep the life of our honnored and beloved Pope.
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  • ok a few things i want to add/talk about: (sorry it turned into a big post)
    1) Thank you blank for translating the message it takes a lot of work to translate and i know how time consuming it could be
    2) Yes the audio and vedio on here for the message of the Pope do cut off but you can always download the audio off the Pope website at www.copticpope.org
    3) Really where my post starts:
    I read through 95% of the posts on here and guys that is definitaly not the attitude we need we need to cheer up a lot more for many reasons, as far as i saw, everybody is sad but keep in mind what happened in Alex and what been happening through the past few months and really years all over Egypt and here in the states too (the people from new jersey understand what i mean) is a blessing and a needed wake up call for every single one of us and i am on the top of that list and i dont deny it. The reason i say it is a wake up call is because of what we learned from the Old Testament and the history of the jewish people, whenever they would do something bad or go astray from God, He would punish them or give them some hardship to wake them up and make them come back to Him. So God is giving us those hardships and not only religious hardships but even enviromental hardships (e.g. katrina, wilma,...etc) they didn't just affect the south they should have affected everyone of us. God is calling on us to fast and pray and really pick up the Bible and understand what He says in their. To really understand what it means when He says "Come to me all you labor and heavy laden and i will give you rest", When He says "From Egypt i call my Son", and when He says "Blessed are my people the people of Egypt" (can't remember excatly how it translates over from arabic) That is enough about why and how this is a needed hardship
    now about how it is a blessing, all i can say about this is go listen to my Coptic Church in arabic or english (i got those copies if you cant find them) or in Coptic (if it exists) and that should draw a good enough picture for you how that is a blessing, because through hardship we learn and if you read or heared the Pope's message He mentioned the verse that says God doesn't give a problem or hardship without giving the solution with it.
    I myself are not worried or scared and maybe its way in the back of my mind that because i am away i am safe and not worried i hope that is not the case and at the same time yes they did make the Pope's blood halal and if you kill him you are a marter in their books but again who do we know died on false witness and for no reason lets see:
    1) Jesus Christ by the hand of the jews
    2) The saints by multiple Rulers
    .
    .
    .
    .
    etc
    and one last thing we don't really pay too much attention during this hardship times to is Matt 6:39 where Christ says " But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also" and that is the reason again why the Pope said i have a lot to say and my heart has a lot more to say but i choose to stay silent and if you read the rest of that Chapter it talks about the second mile and how in those three days we should be really praying for those who want to kill us and persecute us more than praying for ourselves
    just a few things off my chest i am done now :)
  • Well..I definetly agree with you that it's a wake up call...but not in cheering up...what are we going to cheer up about....they kill us every single day...they even publicly said they are going to kill the Pope...I mean it's more than we think it is...because most of us are far away from what's happeneing...but we are all ONE CHURCH...if they did something to the Pope (God forbid)...if they did something to just one church...we are all affected...that's our brothers and sisters who are dying everyday...yes...they are martyrs...but it's just SAD that we are being treated that way in our own country...I know all of these was written in the bible..and we should be happy that we are persecuted...but I just can't get over the fact of seeing the pope's tears...of seeing him worried about his church...and I know the only thing we should do now is pray and fast...but it's just sad.
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