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How come we do 12 More Kirie Eleysons to the East on Good Friday?
(The question is self-explanatory).
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100 east
100 west
100 south
100 north
50 east extra in the honor of St. Mary
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450 kyrie elesons all in all
**please correct me if I'm wrong
tradition is the 100 in each direction, any thing else is just added by the priests or deacons of that particular church, from what i understand every church has their own little extra prostrations that they add at the end. So your church just probably added their own extra as well which is the 12 more to the east.
this is what's right. this is what is written in the books.
sorry for diverting from the original question..
but, y do we do the 400 [coptic]kurie eleycon[/coptic]?
wat do they represent or symbolize?
thanx
pls keep my weakness in ur prayers
-sister in Christ
hello,
sorry for diverting from the original question..
but, y do we do the 400 [coptic]kurie eleycon[/coptic]?
wat do they represent or symbolize?
thanx
pls keep my weakness in ur prayers
-sister in Christ
it's a declartion to the whole world, four corners of the earth (north south east west), of the salvation of Jesus CHrist. and what a better phrase than asking God to have mercy, or showing how He did have mercy by His death.
We used to do the fifty for St Mary too, but they changed that a few years ago because we should be focussing on the suffereings of Christ.
+ God Bless.
We do say 12 in the East, after the four hundred... in long tune while the deacons do the zafa..
oh..yeah...but i don't consider those as part of the 400 because those are for the zaffa. also they are not only twelve, you can keep going untill you are finished, in the altar wher u'd start gholghotha.
hmm.. it said in the book 12. Anyway, obvously they are not part of the 400 as they are said after the four hundred are completed. :P
well yeah. but what if you are in a church like mine where the church is full (even thoo we had 2 dafnas), and there are a lot of deacons, people are of course taking the blessing of the icons. so you can't just do 12 kerie leisons, than start gholghotha when zaffa is not done!!!!
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hmm.. it said in the book 12. Anyway, obvously they are not part of the 400 as they are said after the four hundred are completed. :P
well yeah. but what if you are in a church like mine where the church is full (even thoo we had 2 dafnas), and there are a lot of deacons, people are of course taking the blessing of the icons. so you can't just do 12 kerie leisons, than start gholghotha when zaffa is not done!!!!
oh i see...isnt it a bit like during normal mass when we say keryielysoun while abouna is choosing el 7amal..i noticed sometimes they finish quick and dont say the 41???
pray for me
joe
100 in numerolgy, like 10, 7 and 3 symbolises perfection or eternity - thus we are eternally asking God to have mercy upon us.
pray for me
joe
^thats useful, thnx 4 sharing joe!
it now makes sense
GBU
pp4me
Sorry, I am a bit slow at this stuff.
But we must do more, for the zafa... !
hmm.....must is a great word....i don;t think you are in authority to say that.
the zafa is not part of the 400 at all
Precisely.
We do them after the 400...
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But we must do more, for the zafa... !
hmm.....must is a great word....i don;t think you are in authority to say that.
Say what? That we must say kerielaysons in the zafaa? Or tha the zafa happens right after the 400 kerielaysons?
None of this is comming from me... I'm not making up church rules. It's just how things are... We say more kerielaysons after the 400, whether that be 12 according to the book, or more.