Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Categories
- All Categories 13.8K
- General Category 10.9K
- General Announcements 184
- Faith Issues 3.4K
- Coptic Orthodox Church 2.5K
- Personal Issues 1.4K
- Prayer Requests 426
- Random Issues 1.8K
- Introductions 295
- Non-Orthodox Inquiries 232
- Youth Corner 607
- Hymns 2.6K
- Hymns Discussion 2.6K
- Technicial Difficulties 369
- Technical Topics 369
Joan of Arc, I'm confoosed????
hey guys can you explain Joan of Arc to me...i noe her story but i guess i dont get it...i just watched "The Messenger: Joan of Arc"...helppppppp ??? ??? ??? ???
Comments
Joan of Arc was a young peasant girl who lived in France during a period known as the "Hundred Years War",which was a military conflict involving several european powers, including England,Burgandy,Flanders, and France..Joan{or Jean in French}was a French subject{France was losing the war badly}who claimed that certain angels and other personages commanded her in the Name of God to resist the English and their allies,and to drive them completely out of France.She was also instructed to make sure the rightful heir of France was crowned king and that he assert his authority to rule France.At the time Joan recieved her visions the situation was very bleak,militarily for the French and the heir was just a young man who had little real authority or power.That she was able to accomplish her goals{for the most part}was quite remarkable!During the middle ages girls did not have a high standing in society and it is so unusual{almost impossible}for a girl to rise to such power as did Joan.Whether her visions were real or not,Jean was a very remarkable girl indeed!
After establishing the king{a remarkable feat in itself},and after accomplishing tremendous military victories{Orleans,etc.}she was in effect betrayed by the King of France and captured by the English,who after having her tried by a mock court ,had her burned at the stake. But the damage had already been done!The French were so aroused by Joans life and death that they soon drove the English off French soil.Thus the "Maid of Orleans" accomplished her goals!
Since you watched the movie you probably know all of this.I ,personally,dont like that movie"the messenger",because it tries to portray Joan not as a girl who recieved a Divine message but rather as someone who suffered from mental illness;just a confused and pathetic young woman.I completely disagree! Whether her visions were real or not,from a worldly standpoint what she was able to accomplish was amazing!A young girl establishing a weak king,commanding the Armies of France and winning tremendous military battles against one of the best armies of its time,deserves in my opinon all the positive fame and recognition that she achieved.If she was crazy{I think not!}she was no crazier than most of the people who lived during the late middle Ages.
I hope this brief explanation helps you to understand Joan alittle better.
And i dont see why she wouldnt exist in the orthodox religion, i mean shes recorded in history i dont think there'd be a reason y she wouldnt be supported by our faith, but correct me if i'm wrong please....And i dont think shes considered a saint...i mean saints r one with God...she was one with whom she THOUGHT was God so i really dont think she should be considered a saint, but once again feel free to discuss otherwise ;)
GOD BLESS ALL! :-*
GOD BLESS ALL! :-*
Just thought I'd add that H.H. mentions Joan of Arc when he talks about roles God assigns to women as a defence against feminism so don't count her out just yet... ;)
God bless,
CS
And i do not sound smart, lolx... maturerer maybe, lolx :P
GOD BLESS ALL! :-*
i thought she was only a catholic saint
wat about St Francis Xavier is he also accepted in our COC??
GOD BLESS ALL! :-*
Think of it this way, in EO churches they have their own saints like St. John of Damascus who wrote against the iconcasts but we use his books today as a defence of our icon theology. He isn't a saint technically but we see them as a blessed people.
I also understand that H.H. liked St. Francis of Assisi but we don't consider them saints or anything, just blessed people.
God bless,
CS
It took me over an hour...I think I need to take a typing course,or something...lol
I know Joan of Arc is considered a Saint by the Roman Catholic Church.
I really enjoy watching Joan of Arcadia!I think it's a great show and has many positive christian themes,but every once in a while it strays from the teaching of the Bible.It sometimes portays God in a way that seems to trivialize the majesty of the LORD, and yet on the positive side the show has many good points,especially how it portrays the love and character of God.I think it's definitely worth watching.
I agree! There are other little things that kind of spoil the mood of the show but overall I still like it,and it makes me appreciate God more.God is so good!
Sad,but true!
Yea,I thought it was a creepy movie too!I did'nt like it at all,it was just too messed up for my taste.I thought "Bless the child" was a better horror movie that had some good christian themes.Some of these movies nowadays are just a little too creepy and scary for me...lol{"the Ring", for example}.
ok maybe hes just considered a 'special' saint-like person like u ppl alredy mentioned st francis of asisi is
ok thanx all!
I think he was the founder of the Jesuits???Or was that Loyola?I know he did alot of missionary work in Asia
[India,etc}.He was a Roman Catholic.
As I'm typing this the the song "sherry"{from the 50s or 60s} is playing on my T.V...lol
is the song talkin bout cherries or a character named sherry? lol
wats the song called i wanna download it!
lol
is the song talkin bout cherries or a character named sherry? lol
wats the song called i wanna download it!
It's a famous song about a girl named "Sherry",or"Sherri",not sure how to spell it...lol
I think it's by Franki Valli and the Four Seasons.It's your very own personal song...lol
http://www.lawbuzz.com/justice/joanof_arc/others.htm
GOD BLESS ALL! :-*