- for the verse of matin doxology..your explanations have altered according to the question,,,and i do not have things to add more here..
-regarding efnav....between the period (900 : 1500) there was only (efnav)...and it was said during kiahk and g…
.anway.if there is mixing between the a of (parthenia) and the a of (afshenaf)..why adding the subject (f) ...????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-please!..if you do not have the exact manuscripts at least try to return to the book of Anba Samuel..
-this wha…
@ophadece
i know this since about 6 years from now..the one who posted this question asked me to write what cantor Ibrahim has recorded..so i wrote it..i was informed that cantor Ibrahin and bishop Demitrius of Malawi have added this verse..and was …
this is the book which was written by fr. Samuel elsoriany ( للمهتمين بالدراسات القبطية مصباح الظلمة فى ايضاح الخدمة طبعة
_ it is found in vol2...chapter 16 (صلاة عشية) page 170..
...i want to know if this sentence is found in (paris مصباح الظلمة)…
- i feel that i can not understand you ... i have said more than once that an epsali may have a unique tune such as (xristoc anesti) ..and i think aripsaleen.. as well especially if it is not linked before a special watoc hymn...and the 3 shade is (…
mr,ophadece...
please read what i had written well...i said in my last line (but the base of chanting psalm150 in elsharat is not correct ..as we know from ibn kabar..)....
-the mediafire is the most scientific regarding elsharat...or any thing as …
- i qouted the exact word by ibn kabar .. i have read this book more than you can imagine..you can find it in pages(185-212)..(but did you gave the number of page of what you have quoted from ibn kabar..i did exactly what you have done and i did not…
i think..... the most reasonable recording as it is based on a scientific musical aspect..is this;
http://www.mediafire.com/download/50bl33duyymuby8/Al+el+farai7y+kiama+FrAbraam.wma
-secondly comes the recording of m,Tawfiq and lastly the one by m…
...i know your point of view.. but we have to deffrentiate between upper egypt hymns ( not only zinneya).. and upper egypt cantors who taught from late M.mikhail...as cantor tawfiq is not the only repesenative of cairo hymns in upper egypt..i have l…
regarding the questions...
1- to say that cantor Tawfiq has constructed the psalm 150 in sahidic sharat is not accurate at all.. the old sahidic sharat has no relation with what cantor Tawfiq has recorded.. i myself do live in upper Egypt and i can …
i have some words to say here...
1- it is not accurate to apply what we sing in (lobsh) to what we sing in (psali)..they are of different positions..and i want to remember every one that (THIRD HOOS) is a (watos) song ..so can we apply the different…
i can not follow what you have written cause i do not have the font..
i have checked my dictionaries before writing ...so i need to see what you have written
of course we have but all of them would not be proper for expression of a biblical idea...if we agreed or not bilingualism is a pillar of coptic tradition that we can not get rid of
Aghapi= ep mei
kenonia= ti met er eshfeer
zwrea= taio......or ti
e…
ti aghapi ente ephnoty ephiwt nem pi ehmot ante pi sheery emmonogenis penchois o woh pennooty o woh pensoter isoos pikhristos nem ti kenonia nem ti zwria ante pi epnevma ethowab sena shopy emmoten
listen first to Aswmen recorded by cantor Tawfiq Youssef and you will understand what i mean
you said: (When one says a Sahidic tune, it implies the tune originated or is confined to Upper Egypt)
briefly you are not doing well here ..that is not co…
+ Sahidic means the tune not the dialect...sahidic dialect has died more than 700 years ago
+this tune is not confined to Asuit only....it is found in some old churches ..and also the psalm 150 was recorded by cantor Wadee3 but in lower Egypt Aswme…
this end of thanaton was also recorded by cantor Tawfiq and cantor 3abdo ishak....but of course not many care to listen!
but i refer to stick to the one recorded by cantor Mikhail
@Mgabby1234
this is a picture of cantor Wissa holding el3ood
most of the recordings are between 1955 to1975 (i added the echo)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=24nlgzd&s=8#.VUHKy9JwyB4