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I actually don't know that much about Coptic. I'm just regurgitating what I've read and heard from friends. :)
It's always great to meet copts from Europe (especially when they are alhan freaks like me ;)), and I really really hope that I'll see you in the next european youth meeting next August in ............. Holland ;D
I feel also very sorry, [coptic]Hoc `erof[/coptic], that i am not able to come to Holland this year cause i´ll be in egypt :-[ I love egypt very much...but i also want to visit the usa when i´ve more time... i hope you´ll wait for me :D I know the song [coptic]Nofri pe[/coptic]... we always sing it on birthday :D
Thank you very much for your posts... I now really love the people in this forum... i hope that we´ll get good friends and good christians... :D
[coptic]Vnou] `cmou erwten[/coptic]
[coptic]Gewrgioc[/coptic]
i'm an alhan freak too .. keep posting coptic words , it keeps the language alive .i learnt coptic by myself :books , forums..but i have to admit that my vocaulary is still limited to what is used in church ..
i'm interested in that book in german u talked about , can u send it to me ? if it is possible i'll be more than grateful..
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mahareel
plzz p4m sister in Christ
But there is a website where you can find parts of this book in english: http://www.geocities.com/ambroseboles I hope it´ll help you...
[coptic]As pe pery] tacwni Mahareel[/coptic] = How are you sis mahareel? :D
[coptic]Nane emasw[/coptic] = Very good
[coptic]Ari`hmot `slyl e;be `eroi[/coptic] = Plz pray for me :)
[coptic]Gewrgioc[/coptic]
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mahareel
plzz p4m sister in Christ
keep posting in coptic , it's really helpful.
May God be with u ..pray for me
But there is a website where you can find parts of this book in english: http://www.geocities.com/ambroseboles I hope it´ll help you...
[coptic]As pe pery] tacwni Mahareel[/coptic] = How are you sis mahareel? :D
[coptic]Nane emasw[/coptic] = Very good
[coptic]Ari`hmot `slyl e;be `eroi[/coptic] = Plz pray for me :)
[coptic]Gewrgioc[/coptic]
I would love to learn how to use Coptic as in conversations. That would be awesome because Coptic isn't even a national language, it is a recovered language. I only understand and know the words and prefixes of the Church, but if you know more, I would love to learn.
Some coptic vocabulay: :)
[coptic]Nane[/coptic] = good
[coptic]Nane emasw[/coptic] = very good
[coptic]Nane atoou`i[/coptic] = good morning
[coptic]Nane rouhi[/coptic] = good evening
[coptic]Nane jwrh[/coptic] = good night
[coptic]Nofri[/coptic] = hi/hello
[coptic]Ce[/coptic] = yes
[coptic]`mmon[/coptic] = no
[coptic]][/coptic] = I
[coptic]]ka][/coptic] = I understand
[coptic]]ka] an[/coptic] = I do not understand
[coptic]comc[/coptic] = watch
[coptic]pitelenau[/coptic] = TV*
[coptic]niou`w[/coptic] = the news* (newly introduced words) :D
[coptic]]comc `eniou`w hi pitelenau[/coptic] = i watch the news on TV ;D
[coptic]Oujai[/coptic] = bye/cheer you
Btw i didnt introduce myself.... my name is Sylvia and im from Canada, i go to St. Mary and St. Athanasius church. Our church has a choir that comes on aghapy :D (HCOC Heritage of the Coptic Orthodox Church)
i know i posted a bit too late... but anyone is welcome to clarify this for me... thanks in advance
[coptic]Ari`hmot `slyl e;be `eroi [/coptic]
Enough
[coptic]Gewrgioc[/coptic]
Now, why would an Ekleriki be allowed to wear a black tonia and a cross. Of course, everybody is allowed to wear a cross, but a black tonia usually is a symbol of "death to the world". So, does that mean that an Ekleriki is 'dead to the world'. I always thought that the only ones who are 'dead to the world' are the monks and bishops/priests (including the rank of Diakon). So, why then would an Ekliriki be allowed or even encourged to wear a black tonia. On the contrary, I argue that Eklirikis are the kind of people that we need in the world, so they can teach the coming generations and fight off the heresies that arise. I also think that wearing a black tonia would probably encourage some people to think that they are not far from being ordained priests, (Ahem, Max Michel, Ahem) which is a wrong and very misunderstood concept. Please enlighten us Herr Georgios.
Wearing the pectoral cross is restricted to bishops and priests only.
But, you still haven't answered my question: "What for, what does this black tonia represent in terms of an Oghnostos or an acolyte?"
I'm assuming it's worn simply as a way to distinguish them from the laymen - I don't believe there is any significant symbolism behind it. Also, the simple cassock worn by the anagnostis is different from the riassa worn by bishops, priests and deacons.
But I think that most eklerikis wear that black robe, because they’ve learned almost everything about the bible and the church and her rites... and black also symbolizes [coptic]covia[/coptic] - wisdom. It’s not just clothing. It’s part of tradition, a testimony to the world of the ekleriki´s choice to serve God.
Although it’s a tradition I don’t wear it… even in feasts… You’re right... this is a misunderstood concept… To calm you down: I don’t intend to be a priest… because of that I am studying laws beside HICS… But I can reassure you that God will choose his priests… And those who act against God’s will, God won’t accept them and they won’t have success… I feel so sorry for Max Michel and for all his followers… we as Christians need to pray for him and for all who follow him... we need to pray for him that God will open his eyes...
I hope it helped…
[coptic]Gewrgioc[/coptic]