Do you guys write poetry... share some if you do..!



  • i write poetry too. i wrote He's Always Waiting and The Sheperd and His Sheep
  • Hello, I'm new to this forum, but I'd like to share a poem with you all. I hope you like :D

    Do you believe help is on the way?

    Who am I? Talking to you,
    asking you if you believe.

    You might think your cold and complex
    too hard to reach, but it was easy for me
    I have a bird's eye view,
    plus I'm inside of you

    You shun me and act as if you are doomed,
    as if you are incapable of knowing the truth

    But I can feel it burning inside of you,
    the desire to know, the yearning to be whole.
    I know you want to know

    Yet, you take no risks.
    The minute you don't understand, you give up.
    Back to your old tricks.
    Doing only what you know

    But what do you know? I challenge
    you to answer. Is tomorrow guaranteed?
    Is life so predictable?

    "Science is the key", you feel hesitant to believe...
    "to cure all of my ails, and relieve me of my need"..

    But still your not convinced,
    you have some issues that don't make sense,
    and no explanation will do.

    ...So where do you turn to?

    Is there no one to hear your cry, you often wonder
    "why me?" echoes in your head,
    Dread fills your room, upon everyone and everything around,
    you gaze in gloom, completely consumed...

    "Why me, why me?", you cry
    Unaware that the answer is
    beyond you,...reasons why
    become your goal in life.

    Afraid to step outside and believe,
    you close yourself in, and dig.
    Unwilling to reveal yourself,
    until you've found what's at the heart of you

    You unfold every memory,
    and every past deed,
    not finding what it is you need.

    Every memory and past action,
    become fractions of the whole.
    You pick apart your life, trying to find your soul

    Everything and everyone you've ever known,
    become a hindrance to your goal.
    People have become tools and objects
    for your needs.

    You do not see their souls,
    your too busy looking for your own.

    So every friendship has an incompleteness about it,
    you can sense it, but you can't seem to place it.

    "when I'm whole, that's when I'll know"
    "when I've found my soul, that's when I'll be whole".....

    Inspired by these thoughts, you continue on.
    Going for the two in the bush, you let go of the one.

    Over time the gaps in your friendships grow,
    and you find yourself all alone.

    Feeling lonely and consumed,
    once again you fall into gloom,
    your room is filled with dread,
    "why me" echoes in your head.

    This time around you ask the question
    not seeking an answer
    but out of sheer despair.

    The person you sought,
    He, whom you thought you were,
    just wasn't there.

    He is here, now, asking for help
    in total disarray.

    And so I ask you now,
    Do you believe help is on the way?

    Hope you got to the end of this poem, and you liked it. :)
  •, ionus, that was just you have any others?
  • Hi, Thanks alot. :D

    Here's two shorter ones

    Is there anything better than to know,
    to know who you are?
    Is there anything better than certainty?

    But who in this world ever knew who they were?
    Who was ever certain?

    The flesh never revealed the truth,
    but the spirit gave full proof.

    For the One who knew who we are,
    His spirit lives on....

    God Bless :)

    Seeking you
    through the storm,
    gotta dig deeper
    cuz I feel I get weaker
    there will be no rest
    until im sure....
    your the only cure
    to my fears
    my sorrow fades away
    and I look forward to a new day
    when your all that I have
    and I don't need more
    because I'm sure.

    Sure that you are here.
  • wow, you guys are such great poets...
  • [glow=red,2,300]Forget[/glow]

    I forgot to do my homework
    I forgot to pray yesterday
    I forgot to study for my test
    I forgot to finish my chores
    I forgot to go to church
    I forgot to finish my homework
    Please God don't forget me!

    Our Daily Process:
    *to pray daily
    *read the Bible daily
    *go to church
    *do your homework
    *finish your chores
    *finish your homework

    This is what we need,
    Lord can you help us?
  • poor child

    poor child sitting lonely on the street
    wishing he had shoes to put on his feet

    his mother too sick to care
    all the boy could do was wait and stare

    begging for money to get him a meal
    which to him was a very big deal

    showers he had never taken
    only left and forsaken

    when he was praying in his room on the floor
    which didn't have any walls or even a door
    he said thankyou god for making me poor

    on the floor he slept all night
    sometimes without a fight
    to get the area that didnt have rocks that bite

    the next day he wouldnt see
    if he didnt become a slave to you and me

    one day he just gave up
    and didnt even polish a cup

    he was fired the next day
    and starved all week until that midday

    he had found a barn which he could sleep in
    however it was owned by a girl called kim

    just then he felt someone close by
    he felt so sacred that he was going to die

    he closed his eyes and whished to god that those shoes he wanted wernt worth it
    just then the light had lit

    it was a rich girl who he liked alot
    who gave him a bed and a cot

    together they grew up
    and even had bought a new pup

    they realised they were in love with each other
    and the poor boy found his mother

    they got married several years later
    and they a daughter called Kater

    then that boy had prayed
    but this time he sayed

    thankyou god for making me rich

  • LOVE

    Love is when you have a weird feeling
    but its very good at heeling
    saddened faces or tearful eyes
    but it hurts when they say their goodbyes

    love is like the dart
    that aims at your hearts
    love may be tripped in
    and may end by doing a sin

    please beware what live brings
    and there is no alarm like when a bell rings
    love is very special to you
    but the question is love is for who

    be careful who you choose
    because if you don’t you will loose

    sometimes love can be really wrong
    but there is still no ding dong
    watch every step you take
    or then your heart will brake

    the warning I have given you
    but that depends on what you do
    don’t come crying back to me
    for I have warned thee

    love shouldn’t be because of looks
    love shouldn’t be because of books
    love should come from the heart really
    and you should love him dearly

    if you choose the person and your sure
    invite him only to your door
    step by step love should go
    before your heart turns into dough

    love shouldn’t make you blind
    because it will catch you from behind

    trouble some times both will go
    and your heart will sink low
    happy times both will share
    and there will be times where you just don’t care

    there will be a time where both will cry
    because love is going to die
    love is very harmful for you
    otherwise for the two

    love is a beautiful thing
    then your heart hears a ding ding

    love doesn’t always end in sadness
    or a load of madness
    it may end in love forever
    a break up may be never

    love they are in
    and their heart never dim
    romance they may bring
    and a love song they may always sing

    a broken heart may be never
    and their love for each other may be forever
    love they both give each other
    more love than the love of a brother

    a bad thought may never enter their mind
    or questions if their too kind
    this poem they have read
    and that’s the one reason they are ahead
  • LOVE

    Love is when you have a weird feeling
    but its very good at heeling
    saddened faces or tearful eyes
    but it hurts when they say their goodbyes

    love is like the dart
    that aims at your hearts
    love may be tripped in
    and may end by doing a sin

    please beware what live brings
    and there is no alarm like when a bell rings
    love is very special to you
    but the question is love is for who

    be careful who you choose
    because if you don’t you will loose

    sometimes love can be really wrong
    but there is still no ding dong
    watch every step you take
    or then your heart will brake

    the warning I have given you
    but that depends on what you do
    don’t come crying back to me
    for I have warned thee

    love shouldn’t be because of looks
    love shouldn’t be because of books
    love should come from the heart really
    and you should love him dearly

    if you choose the person and your sure
    invite him only to your door
    step by step love should go
    before your heart turns into dough

    love shouldn’t make you blind
    because it will catch you from behind

    trouble some times both will go
    and your heart will sink low
    happy times both will share
    and there will be times where you just don’t care

    there will be a time where both will cry
    because love is going to die
    love is very harmful for you
    otherwise for the two

    love is a beautiful thing
    then your heart hears a ding ding

    love doesn’t always end in sadness
    or a load of madness
    it may end in love forever
    a break up may be never

    love they are in
    and their heart never dim
    romance they may bring
    and a love song they may always sing

    a broken heart may be never
    and their love for each other may be forever
    love they both give each other
    more love than the love of a brother

    a bad thought may never enter their mind
    or questions if their too kind
    this poem they have read
    and that’s the one reason they are ahead
  • haha a bit contraversial but ok all the same

    bear the cussin plz

    Weak Point
    Redsuperman, everyone got weaknesses no matter what, be it hatred, or love straight from the gut

    Everyone has a weakness no matter who
    Everyone has something that they cant do
    No one can be perfect or overcome all
    Especially not the love or hatred wall

    Malcolm X’s weakness was his Strength too
    His best attribute was saying wut he believes, says a few
    He wud never lack in his speeches in his ideas
    But he then relized he was following the wrong criteria

    He followed Elijah Muhamad a so called prophet
    But then he got some news, that all he do is talk shit
    Found out his idol was nothing more then a soft core
    Speaking blasphemies and hypocrisies with a roar

    Martin luther kings weakness was his strength too
    His best attribute was loving others, not a few
    He wudnt ever forget anyone in his prayers
    Even the oppressing white ignorant mayors

    He talked about love to all and to all the same
    For years and years no one will forget his name
    But he had too much compassion for his enemies so
    He got sniped my them, to heaven he go

    Nelson mandelas strength was his weakness too
    His attribute was standing up, he always knew
    Would never give up no matter who oppressed
    But this approach made him a mess

    He rebelled even when he was a “criminal”
    His ideas were considered politically minimal
    He got locked up in a sell for 40 years
    Im sure over that he still sheds tears

    Achilles the God’s strength was his weakness too
    His lack of heart, put others askew
    He didn’t think twice bout murderin his foes
    what goes around gets around, that’s how it goes

    he started to care but then was hit
    blood in his mouth, unable to spit
    he died because he cared against his power
    in hades, his soul is devoured

    the last person I’ll discus is one most ppl don’t know
    can be nice can be evil, always considered so
    he tries to be invincible thts his strength
    also his weakness, his cord has a length

    he tries to hide his heart and show no pain
    but he knows that has nothing to gain
    he always smiles no matter what
    even tho he might be hurtin, down in the gut

    the person im describing is the superman
    his strength matched, no one can
    he only shows his emotions to the people he cares
    and he hopes in his heart, they’ll always be there

    Don’t think having a weakness is a negative
    Cause without it u wudnt b human, have no way to live
    Everyone has something that makes them weak sometimes
    But its better that way, keeps up in line
    To be perfect a man has to always try to be
    No one says they are, its an impossibility
    A weak point is a point in a persons temperament
    Not always a physical condition, can b anger management
    Being scared to cry is the saddest thing possible
    Most people wud argue tht its impossible
    But sometimes the superman is scared
    To show people that he cares
    He thinks if he cries for someone he’ll never stop
    Will cry his eyes out for all, needing a mop
    Would hurt for all those in poor countries with no food on the table
    Would cry to those told lies, everything a fable
    Would anguish over all those who have killed and will kill again
    Knowing as a young person all they needed is a friend
    Would suffer for those who been killed in gunfire
    All those been shot in the stomach, lung deflating like a tire
    Crying for all those who love other people so much
    Cuz they’ll get hurt, my heart it crush
    Would be in agony for those who hate their brother
    Kill their own blood, from their own mother
    Hed cry for all those who’ve seen death hauntin their minds everynight
    All those mothers holding their hindered babys with all of their might
    Hed cry for all the gangsters that sold their souls for assistance
    Knowing tht their part of a endless resistance
    Hed cry for those coming back from jail their eyes so dark
    Sometimes its described to others as the devils mark
    Hed cry for all those who drink away their problems so sadly
    Would sometimes consider suicide ever so gladly
    Hed cry the hardest for every time he hurt someone else he cares for
    Hed break down in tears of blood, suffer no more
    You see why superman holds it in so hard and never shows his heart
    Cuz even if he wanted to cry he wudnt know where to start
    He has so much to cry for its terrifying
    With the past his pain is intertwining
    One day he’ll know he’ll have to let out the pain
    A few ways to do so, can cry like rain
    Can kill himself stopping it forever
    Can slit his wrists, horizontally sever
    Till he decides wut hes guna do
    Superman continuing to write to
    Everyperson has a weak point
    Can b lack of fear, or smoking a joint
    Takes a man to admit his weakness
    Takes a fool to boast his meekness
    So pray for superman that he one day he can cry
    If he don’t eventually…superman will die

    The redsuperman

  • Last Breathe

    Redsuperman breathing in the Good breathing in the Bad, no matter what hes always mad

    Running back and forth getting tired
    Never looking back, their hope never expires
    Always going forward never going back
    Keeping their focus, never off track

    Superman decides wut he wants to do today
    For the rest of his life, everyday
    What he guna wake up and breathe in
    What hes guna enjoy, for the win

    He has alot of choices but he onli can chose one
    Life aint just about joking and having fun
    So many options for him to chose from
    Chose the right one, or else end up drinkin rum

    He can b a gangster, a thug so true
    Eating well, selling his soul for a few
    For the money the cars and the good protection
    Giving up anything of good intention

    He can be a worker and labour so durable
    Break his bones, vertebrae shatters, paralysis incurable
    He can stop school and just work to get by
    Or he can continue school, at least give it a try

    He can do what he always wanted to do
    But only some have done it, only a few
    He wants to make a difference in his race
    Instead of sitting back selfishly, becoming a disgrace

    He wants to go to Egypt and Sudan
    Go to Ethiopia and Eritrea if he can
    Help out with his roots before working big
    Stopping the struggle, breaking the mine rig

    He will go into Egypt with authority
    Stop the monarchy of stupidness, stride importantly
    Will not give up no matter what he faces
    Cuz otherwise to his country, he disgraces

    He will fix the government and get jobs from within
    Instead of the ignorant politians, taking money for themselves, such a sin
    They don’t care about the poor or the needy
    I don’t understand, why they so greedy

    He’ll make the government respect wages and costs
    Show them his degree, that’s he the boss
    Wont give up, will always do what he can
    Never forget to represent his fellow man

    he’ll have money from healthcare to save the dying
    if doctors had the necessities, they would be trying
    would go to the government who don’t even charge no tax
    would make order and would show them the true facts

    Egypt is dying because of oppression and greed
    A person whos impartial, is all that they need
    Christians, Muslim all the same
    Don’t hate your man cuz of his name

    We all live together, work the same way
    We work for food on the table, to live a better way
    We all love our families how can we forget
    To let them down, would b a big regret

    We gota work in harmony no oppression allowed
    If they continue to do so, I’ll build up the crowd
    Repeat the million-man march, and pray to the Savior
    To come and help us, to be our major

    We’ll express ourselves the pain not enough to stop us
    No guns or smoke can maintain the power within us
    We’ll fight until we win, in the end
    Till we all live in peace, just like friends

    I’ll then go to Sudan and do the same
    To Ethiopia, Eritrea, every African country by its name
    I’ll stop the oppression and the fight
    Africa you got superman, with all of his might

    I swear to you this my continent ever so dear
    I promise to save you, the image is clear
    I’ll fight the oppression until my last breathe
    Even if inevitably, it results in my death…

  • The Truth
    Dedicated to those who know not, what’s behind enemy lines
    R E D \S/uperman

    The story starts with forgotten hates
    Why people white or black debate
    Knowing not or why they fight
    When dey can just drop it and be tight

    But in other places the fight goes on
    Like in da 3rd world Egypt and Sudan
    Where Rapists murderers and thieves run free
    So sad wut politics are dun in dem countries

    Sistas raped, houses robbed, brothas killed
    Cuz of a heartless Muslim wit no mind, unskilled
    If he was, he’d understand dat the shit he do is wrong; it’s tragic
    Instead of spurting bullets and killing like magic

    In the book they study, read, and follow
    It has evil meanings, corruption so hollow
    In the book of the Quran Eight: Thirty-Nine spoken by da Muslim brotha
    And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah.

    The shit I showed you came from their own belief
    Which is why with all Muslims , I got beef
    Until the world fixes this shit, I rhyme it out
    Instead of dying in the streets, spurted and shout

    A story from a brotha from Egypt name Sam
    He lives in Canada , safe, a healthy man
    In Egypt he keeps in touch
    Wit da family he cares for much

    One day he called and heard a voice weeping
    In the background a woman tearin'; her eyes seepin'
    My older cousin of 25 picks up the phone, sounding barely alive
    A voice in the back asking, “Where u put da nive?”

    I asked him wut happened and needed an answer now for I worried so
    After his answer, my hatred for Muslims swelled even mo
    He said Michelle my cousin was going to be raped
    By a Muslim boy his heart covered in drapes

    But my older cousin showed up large 6 5 and alive
    Kept it clean, used his nive.
    I asked if the boy was dead, an answer came “iuno”
    I broke the silence of pain by adding hatred… “I hope so”

    From that day my heart forgiving, understanding and nice
    Had been ripped apart, stepped on, infected wit da hatred mice
    My story ends of rape and murder
    Don’t close the page, my pain extends further

    A story of my beautiful little cousin the age of 6
    Beaten brutally, silenced cuz of a crucifix
    The story beings with the moving of towns, of houses
    To a place Christian free, Muslims roamed like mouses

    They moved there for a better job for the fatha
    The family regretting it instantly especially da motha
    I bring another verse from the book they love and close by it they stand
    They will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land.
    Believe me not?, five: thirty-three
    Read and detest thee
    My cousin at age 6 enrolled in school
    Populated by Muslims, a Christian being a fool
    A boy in her class lied to the teacher and got away
    My cousin advised “God is love, he din teach us that way”

    The boy advanced his knowledge to his veiled mother
    Who was overheard and yelled at by his older brother
    The Muslim family complained and went to the principal of the school his decision biased
    The principal appalled called the po lice saying their religion becoming demised:

    The po lice arrested the mother, the young gurl brutally beaten and hurt
    They didn’t care of what they were doing, didn’t mind ripping my aunts shirt
    She left jail a month later cold, angry and mean
    This story true, sad but true, seen?

    The sadness is that I cannot hate my fellow man
    The motherfuckers in Egypt and Sudan
    God taught me to give my other cheek
    I will, not like my heart is meek
    I do it for my cousin who suffered this atrocity sadly
    I would rather have suffered crucifixion gladly
    Then the suffering and oppression the Christians go through
    I cannot say to a Muslim “ I hate you”
    I believe against it for Michelle, for the gurl age 6
    My heart shattered into lil pick-up-stix
    The truth is that hatred brings nothing but affliction and pain
    Killing, murders, thefts, and hate untaimed
    I fight not these hateful Muslims
    I want peace, for me, for my children
    When I grow up and live it the best
    Iun want my baby crying on my chest
    Her daddy by a Muslim got shot
    in the spurt of bullets in religious warfare he was caught
    I apologize to the murderers and the killed
    Murderers you did not know, but your holy book it willed
    Jesus once spoke in the book of John
    ”in the world you will have tribulations” this pain we dawn
    “But be off good cheer” a strong man indeed
    “ I have overcome the world” be proud to bleed
    John sixteen verse thirty three
    Your words I hold close to my shattered heart, I keep with me
    The truth is hard to bear its burden so heavy
    Let god help you hold the cross, pray and be ready…



    as a student , i had fantasized about visiting Egypt, the cradle of african civilization, the treasure chest of so much beauty in art and design, about seeing the pyramids and the sphinx, and crossing the nile, the Greatest of African rivers. from Addis, Oliver, Robert Resha -- who was to accompany me on the rest of my travels -- and i flew to Cairo. I spent the whole morning of my first day in Cairo at the museum, looking at art, examining artifacts, making notes, learning about the type of men who founded the ancient civilization of the Nile Valley. this was not amateur archaelogical evidence to dispute the fictitious claims of whites that africans are without a civilized past that compares with that of the West. In a single morning, i discovered that Egyptians were creating great works of art and architecture when whites were still living in caves.
    Egypt was an important model for us, for we could witness firsthand the program of socialist economic reforms being launched by President Nasser. He had reduced private ownership of land, noationalized certain sectors of the economy, pioneered rapid industrialization, democratized education, and build a modern army, many of these reforms were precisely the sort of things that we in the ANC hoped to entact.

    R \S/



    War-Mongering, Discrimination, Enmity, Hatred and Intolerance in the Quran
    Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    Article 1.
    All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

    Quran 9:80
    Whether you ask forgiveness for them, or you don't, even if you ask forgiveness for them 70 times Allah will not forgive them. That is because they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and Allah doesn't guide wicked people.

    Quran 9:5
    Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    Quran 9:39
    If you do not go to war, He will afflict you with a painful doom, and will choose instead of you a folk other than you. You cannot harm Him at all. Allah is Able to do all things.

    Quran 9:113
    It is not for the Prophet, and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of idolaters even though they may be near of kin (to them) after it hath become clear that they are people of hell-fire.

    Quran 5:33
    The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;

    Quran 2:216
    Warfare is ordained for you, even if you don't like it; but it may happen that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

    Quran 8:39
    And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.

    Quran 4:74
    Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

    Quran 8:65
    O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.

    Quran 8:67
    It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

    Quran 9:123
    O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

    Quran 2:244
    Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower.

    Quran 2:193
    And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

    Quran 4:89
    They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

    Quran 2:191
    Slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

    Quran 3:85
    He that chooses a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the next life he will among the losers.

    Quran 9:29
    Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

    Quran 9:41
    Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and with your persons. This will be best for you, if you but knew.

    Quran 9:73
    Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home, and evil fate.

    Quran 9:111
    Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Quran. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah ? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

    Quran 7:179
    And surely, We have created many of the jinns and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones.

    you disagree and say that this is the violence of their religion like any other one, but you do not understand the opression that is followed by this faith. they follow through with the ORDERS of hatred given by their God, they kill, rape, rob, burn, torture Christian Egyptians for the sole descrimination that they are unbelievers. real life examples you ask? sure, watch what you hope for... \S/

    The Egyptian Court to the Muslims: You can kill the Egyptian Christians (Copts) with impunity. There was no punishment for any Muslims who murdered Christians in cold blood.

    An urgent appeal to the United Nations to protect the Copts in Egypt.

    "The trouble began Friday, December 31, 1991, in Al-Kosheh, an Upper Egyptian village, 275 miles south of Cairo, when Fayez Awad, a Muslim vendor, tried to purchase some textile from Rashed Mansour, a Christian shop owner. A dispute between the two ensued."

    This is the backdrop of the latest massacre, premeditated against the defenseless Coptic (Christian) minority of Egypt. It does not differ much from the context of previous massacres where other Christians were brutally killed in cold blood and their property were looted or burned down under the sight of the Egyptian government and local authorities.

    For four consecutive days, that is until Monday January 3, 2000, Muslim villagers went into rampage terrorizing their Christian neighbors in three villages; Al-Kosheh, Dar Al-Salam, and Awlad Tog West. Egyptian security forces aloofly watched over the camage, while curfew was in place!

    Once more, members of the beleaguered Coptic minority are subdued by thousands of Muslim aggressors. The toll as of now is as follows:

    More than 20 Copts were shot or buried to death and more than 10 were missing and feared murdered and burnt by the Egyptian officials to minimize the number of victims. More than 70 houses, shops, and warehouses were looted and burned down. A church building was destroyed. Scores of Copts were wounded, some in serious condition.

    The Criminals stopped buses and cars, and picked the Christian passengers from their Identification Cards and shot them in cold blood.

    It is important to note that in August 1998, 1200 Copts of Al-Kosheh village were rounded up and tortured by the Egyptian police in an attempt to frame a Coptic suspect to cover up the murder of two Christians who were killed by Muslims.

    Similar massacres and massive attacks had previously taken place in different cities and villages all over Egypt in the last three decades. Among them we only cite, as examples: Al-Khanka, Al-Zawiyah, Al-Hamras, Kaft Dernian, Imbaba, Ezbet El-Nakhel, Ain-Shama, Al-Fayioum, Benisuef Dayrout, Al-Quslyah, Abou-Qurqas, Samallout, Al-Menlyah, Qena, and Aswan.

    According to the Koran: The Muslims are instructed not to befriend Jews or Christians according to the Surah 5:54 which states, " O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for your friends." Therefore the Christians in Egypt are surrounded by hatred all over the country. Children in schools are taught that the Copts are infidels who should not be trusted and are not desirable elements in a Muslim society. Also, Christian children are forced to memorize Koranic verses, which are demeaning to their faith.

    In the Koran, Allah orders Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims on His behalf. According to the Koran, "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbeliever, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. It is not ye who slew them; it was God" (Surah 8:13-17). Consequently, the Muslim fundamentalists murder Christians with impunity with the collaboration of the Egyptian security forces. As long as it is God who is responsible for murdering Christian, all the Muslims who have murdered Christians have been diagnosed as mentally disturbed by the government and set free. Since 1971 no one who murdered Christians or took possessions or property owned by Christians have been brought to justice. In Egypt both Copts and policemen have been murdered by the Muslim fundamentalists. However, the Copts have been murdered for their faith. In addition, Christian girls are regularly kidnapped and raped by Muslim fundamentalists, with the collaboration of the Egyptian security officials. They are forced to be concubines or prostitutes. The Koran says that God may forgive a person who forces his slave girl into prostitution (Surah 24:33). A prominent Islamic leader, Sheikh Mohamed El-Sharawii, who was awared the highest medal in Egypt by President Mubarak stated that a non-Muslim female should be honored if she is raped by a Muslim man.

    There is no apostasy principal in Islam. According to Surah 3:85 "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never it will be accepted of him." On May 28, 1972 the Supreme Court of Alexandria in Egypt decided that Sherrin Saleh who converted to Christianity and married a Christian man was legally dead! Therefore, the Muslims who convert to Christianity are imprisoned and tortured on the ground that they create sedition and disorder. Islam is a nationality and anyone denounces Islam is considered as a traitor to the Nation of Islam. The Muslims talk about the Islamic Nation and not Islamic nations.

    Therefore, the judgement on February 5, 2001, was based on the Islamic principles of killing non-Muslims with impunity. All the Muslims who murdered the 21 Copts in the town of Kosheh last January were released.

    The Copts are living in fear of being murdered or property destroyed their daughters being kidnapped, and being humiliated in their workplace and public places. They are surrounded by hatred from their Muslim citizens. Their situation is similar to that of the Jews during the Nazi domination in Europe before sending them to the gas chambers or the Armenians before they were massacred in Turkey in 1915.

    WORLD, PLEASE WAKE UP: The Copts of Egypt, the largest Christian minority in the Middle East, have been subjected to a cruel, though subtle, campaign of the ethnic cleansing for the last thirty years. Hundreds of thousand of Coptic villagers have been forced to flee out of their homes and land due to such attacks, money extortion or abject poverty. In addition, more than one million Copts have migrated from their homeland. Perpetrators of these grave violations of criminatory policies or its inaction.

    As the reoccurrence of such atrocities and discriminatory policies of the Egyptian regime against the Coptic are diehard, it now becomes the responsibility of the international human community to bear its moral and legal responsibility towards the Copts in Egypt. The world must now remain indifferent until another genocide in complete.

    The American Coptic Association requests that the United Nations investigates such violations, and the United States of America to withhold any assistance to Egypt until it respects the human rights of the Copts.

    The American Coptic Association
    and its chapters,
    The Australian Coptic Association,
    The Canadian Coptic Association,
    The European Coptic Associations

    PO Box 9119 GLS Jersey City, NJ 07304

    Not all muslims are like this, the Egyptian Muslims in Egypt are also our brethren too, some of us work together in harmony, to live together, to do alot together, we must be able to distinguish the real people from the opressors, the high corporate political slackey from the real selfish beneficial president, keep your eyes open


  • well this is the last thing im guna send if ur interested i got more

    both of the CHRISTIAN COPTIC religion but both arguing, interesting stuff

    [ham] says:

    you can't take the quron that literally

    [ham] says:

    our bible has stuff like that too

    [ham] says:

    it was put in to protect us at the time

    [ham] says:

    look at the crusades

    [ham] says:

    look at the battles in the bible

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    ok but they were well justified at THOSE times

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    nowadays i dont see ppl plucking out their eyes and fighting for no reason

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    did u read

    ²³Redsuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    a long walk to freedom

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    that i just added

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:


    [ham] says:

    i'm reading it now

    [ham] says:


    [ham] says:

    what i am saying is let everyone live in peace

    [ham] says:

    not all muslims are insane

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    i havent said they are

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    i even pinpointed it to the EGYptian muslims

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    i have friends that are muslims

    [ham] says:

    gah mna

    [ham] says:

    you can't do that

    [ham] says:

    you can't

    [ham] says:

    you can't put them all in the same basket

    [ham] says:

    it just isn't fair

    ²³RedSuperman ²³ 140 R I P says:

    well u cant leave other ppl to believe that this doesent go on neither

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    i'll add to it

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    i'll say some are like this

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    some arent

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    fair enough?

    [ham] says:


    [ham] says:

    but look at the americans too

    [ham] says:

    they are doing the same shit in the name of God

    [ham] says:

    that isn't fair

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    u gave me an idea thank u very much

    [ham] says:

    everyone is fucking everyone in the name of a higher power

    [ham] says:

    no problem man

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    using it as an excuse

    [ham] says:

    i'm just saying... people should just accept others...

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    to do wht they plead to do for power or their own selfish prosperity

    [ham] says:

    who gives a fuck who they worship or if they worship

    [ham] says:

    that's not what it's about

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    to accept other cultures man the ppl have to b educated

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    i know it aint

    [ham] says:

    we are all flesh and blood here

    ²³Sam ²³ 140 R I P says:

    im not hating because of that

    [ham] says:

    brothers leaving together

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    Jesus came for everying

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:


    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    but ppl gota understand wut goes on in the wolrd man

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    too much ppl uneducated bout the hatred that goes on

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    they live a fabricated image given by the rich politicians in the government that if ur ok everythings ok and forget everyone else

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    thats not right

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    ppl have to have a chance to see BOTH sides of the world

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    the good and the bad

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    then they can ultimately judge for themselves what to do

    [ham] says:


    [ham] says:

    but it's not easy to do something man

    [ham] says:

    that side of the world really just needs a reformatting

    [ham] says:

    when something gets that fucked

    [ham] says:

    that messed up

    [ham] says:

    there is nothing

    [ham] says:

    when you plant jews in the middle of a place where they are persecuted

    [ham] says:

    when you mix arabs

    [ham] says:

    it's not a fun time

    [ham] says:

    and the states try to help by they really can't

    ²³RedSuperman²³ 140 R I P says:

    well thats not their fault neither, it has to be done by the people and the leaders, it has to be done one way or another.


    You will not be excused cause of your wealth or your power

    cause when your dead eventually the demons your soul will devour

    you gota learn that its not right to be taking from others and hate this way

    ima apologize and show you in this letter today

    i send this letter out to all the hated, opressed and loved

    the government leaders in the back, never above

    never known to the public but use people like bush to make selfish decisions

    the poison of hatred and poverty their needle of power gives an injection

    I apologize for classing brothers and making overall impressiosn on a group of people

    i apologize be you in a temple, mosque or church steeple

    there are people in the world in all religions and ignorantly live without care

    using God as an excuse even tho deep down in their heart they know he aint there

    it is quite sad to truly understand the minds of these men and women black and white

    wondering why every day why the F*** do they have to fight

    but sometimes the reason is apparent through hours of reading and conseptualizing

    shaking my head when i read about the blasphemous mobsters forcing prostitution, initializing

    Some muslim leaders in Egypt dont care about the overall population or anyone in the place

    to the elected and the non law abiding to your country your a disgrace

    they dont put taxes therefore theres nothing to help those in poverty

    this is the worst type of Monarchy Democracy

    i dont blame the muslim or christians in the street who do their evils sometimes

    there head with a lack of education exploding like mines

    they dont know whats good or whats bad

    cause they are raised in the poverty of philosophy, dying so sad

    i blame Bush but also those behind his back

    who gave him orders to set war in Iraq

    using his religion sometimes as an excuse

    like Osama Bin Laden, deserving more then abuse

    they both have that in common in their insecurity

    they use their religion to govern their people in impurity

    they dont really believe but have other motives instead

    the devil inside them hoping evil is bred

    we gota be able to understand its not the man you see on the news

    but its the people behind him inside his head, that impliment his views

    we gota show more endurance and fight for our rights

    Christian, White Black Or Muslim with all of our might

    through your religion Demon you aint excused

    using it as a getaway, using it as a rescue

    but remember no matter what religion your abusing no matter your luck

    you played with fire, your stupid as F***

    inspired by HAM

  • hey wat happened everyone... share people!!
  • i dont understand y admin isnt deleting this post.. their is some stuff that is inappropriate! or did they just not get around to deleting this post yet! or is swearing allowed but not spritual talk about sex stuff? ::)
  • Actually I liked it
  • AthanasiusTheApostolic u like what? the swearing that is in gerges_23 post?

    Adminds: i still cant seem to understand y ur lettin all this swearing but nut a spritual sex talk.. ::)
  • okay so there was some profanity but if u guys would look past that u would see how (not only well it was written) but also an important message in gerges_23's yea, with the exception of "word choice" and cursing..good stuff gerges :)
  • lol its ok relax ;D maybe they're not online now but in the meantime, maybe some more poems ;D
  • If you don't like it, report it.
  • Youstina S.... i just read your poem!! VERY nice!! good jobbbbbb!!
    and awesome job to everyone else!! (it took me a while to get through these poems, but wow, they are great!)... you ppl are all so talented!

    here's a poem a friend of mine wrote for english class.... it had to include alot of stuff like personification, metaphors, hyperbole, oxymoron, etc... if you ppl understand/recognise/ like that sorta thing, you'll appreciate the poem...

    she said the poem is about martyrdom... so i hope you guys pick that up....

    take care & God bless

    Hidden Courage

    A society of harmony
    Or so it seems,
    To many who do not know
    What goes on.
    In a world of understanding, suffering, pain
    Many lose their lives, but have much to gain.
    It all seems weird or even crazy
    But to them, it was what they desired.
    I stand on land where red rivers flow.

    The air has the smell of hatred and love.
    Hatred that goes beyond comprehension
    And a love that is deeper than the blue ocean.
    A heart of gold, and a lion’s courage
    They stand their ground, despite its quake.
    Shattered bones, and black and blue skin,
    Never moved the strong love they had within.
    Great riches had no effect on their set minds.
    I watch and listen, and am in awe.

    Cries, screams and tears flooding the land,
    Came from those, young and old.
    A story unimaginable
    Yet so very true,
    Who are these people
    That would go through all this with joy?
    Their faith and beliefs are evident and apparent
    In their lives and on their faces.
    I stand and stare, and cannot believe.

    To me it sounds like it happened long ago
    But little did I know, that it still happens now.
    I walk across the same earth that they walked.
    I fight the same battle that they fought.
    “No Greater Love” they would shout
    As they marched into misery
    Who could they be?
    I walk across the same land - now almost dead -
    The earth that they made
    No longer green, but red.

  • My favorite kind of Poetry:


    1 ¶ To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.
    In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain?
    2 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.
    3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
    4 ¶ The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
    5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
    6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
    7 For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
  • i think this is a nice friendship poem...

    a friend like you

    someone to wash away your every tear
    and someone for you to always hear

    someone to hold you really tight
    and someone to stay up with you every night

    someone to know your every feeling
    and someone you know is all seeing

    someone that knows u right
    and someone that loves you with all their might

    someone you keep close to your heart
    and someone that knows you will never part

    someone you will always cherish
    and someone that will never let you perish

    this is right and true
    for a friend like you
  • That was outstanding Christ4Life, did you make it?

    Coptic Servent
  • yea... but i was kinda inspired by someone else...
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