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As has been previously announced on this site, next week the Coptic Orthodox Church will convene a historic “Lands of Immigration Conference” which will determine the course the Coptic Orthodox Church will chart in the English-speaking West for the next 50 years. A number of presentations will be given by clergy and laity serving in the West on topics such as:
-Whether or not the calendar should be adjusted so that the Coptic Church celebrates the Nativity and the Resurrection with Western heterodox confessions with which she is not in communion, in the process falling out of sync with the celebrations of those feasts by her sister churches in the See of St. Mark: the Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox Churches
-How the Orthodox Faith might be culturally contextualized in the West, including discussions on whether or not heterodox (specifically Evangelical Protestant) practices, materials, and modes of worship (such as so-called “praise & worship” or “Contemporary Christian Music”) can be “baptized” into the life of the Church at our youth meetings and at other times
-Whether or not it is appropriate to sing such songs during the Holy Liturgy, specifically after the chanting of Psalm 150 during the time at which the faithful receive the Holy Body and Precious Blood of Christ
Although some churches presently utilize Evangelical Protestant songs and materials as described above in an unofficial way – in contradiction to the decisions of the Holy Synod as described here:http://returntoorthodoxy.com/formal-measures/ and without the express approval of the hierarchy – if the Church should officially endorse such practices it would be catastrophic and very hard to undo, and this generation would go down in history as the generation that dropped the baton and allowed for the incorporation of heteropraxis into the Divine Liturgy and the daily life of the Church, a situation that will surely be reversed by those who come after us since the gates of hell shall not prevail against God’s Church (St. Matthew 16:18) and such a change could only be a temporary and much lamented aberration.
Because this conference is so important, the St. Jacob Baradaeus Orthodox Christian Fellowship asks you to join us (with the permission of your Father of Confession) in praying three times daily – during the Third Hour (9 AM), the Sixth Hour (12 PM), and Compline (9 PM) – for the cessation and reversal of Evangelical and Charismatic influence in the Coptic Orthodox Church and the triumph of Orthodoxy and orthopraxis at the “Lands of Immigration” conference. We will be praying in this way for the duration of the Conference, from May 18 to May 24, 2015, and will also be praying at all liturgical services we attend during that time. We are doing so with the permission of our Fathers of Confession, many of whom – along with other priests – have indicated that they will join their prayers to ours during this time and are praying that God will bless and accept our petitions.
Pray for the peace of the one holy catholic and apostolic Orthodox church of God. Confirm her in her in the foundation of faith and practice imparted unto her by the Holy Apostle St. Mark. The oneness of heart in love and faith, may it be rooted in her, in all of her priests, and in all of us. Let the righteousness of faith grow; straighten for us the path of godliness. The shepherds do Thou control; and those whom they shepherd confirm. The elders confirm in Orthodoxy; the youth instruct in Orthodoxy. The unbelievers restore; let the schisms of the Church come to an end. Strip the vanity of the heretics; and count us all in the unity of righteousness. All offences and their instigators, abolish. May all dissensions and corrupt heresies cease. Bring them to naught, O Lord.
Where is the agenda of the conference with the alleged discussion points? Changing the calendar and introducing songs in the liturgy seems far fetched.
Make sure you are not praying for a phantom conference.
Conferences do not happen out of nowhere. There must be an announcement and some kind of preparation for it.
In the absence of an official announcement, it is fair to assume this is just a joke.
If it is universal knowledge except in my tiny church, there must be online material to back it up.
Kindly refer me to any official announcements and to this alleged recording of His Holiness The Pope.
Happy you found a bit of amusement in my posts, because I found none in yours.
I asked for some background information about this conference because the discussion points are surprising to me. I cannot believe the church is discussing a calendar change for no good reason or contemplating the use of foreign songs in the liturgy. I do not know your level of faith but this is no laughing matter. Before reacting I wanted to make sure it is not a confusion or a joke.
I was hoping that any of the posters would post a direct link to explain more about this conference because searching Arabic interviews and articles are not so easy for me.
But as many of you seem confident in confirming this conference, may I ask about your own impression or opinion regarding the conference?
Yes, when an opinion is expressed we try to talk in acknowledgement of the others comments. When it's not it becomes a power struggle with egos not giving in not learning what we're communicatng together.
Thank you for your intervention.
I must say that I am disappointed that a conference of such importance has been intentionally under publicized, in many areas in North America and in Egypt, and that it has taken place to begin with to entertain a calendar change and official introduction of foreign songs.
What is this conference going to do with Nicaea? Just abrogate it?
I miss the great Pope Shenouda. Why only after his repose are we having these proposals?
Lord have mercy.
"Houses of hospitality must be built for the poor in every city of every diocese"
Canon LXX of The Captions of the Arabic Canons Attributed to the Council of Nicea
If you insist on 'compassion', we can do the exact same thing in Africa (Kenya) and call it a "mission trip".
"Praise bands must be established for the youth by every Sunday School of every diocese"
Canon LXX of The Captions of the English Canons Attributed to the Council of St Paul's Monastery, Red Sea
"Unless you love, the poor will never forgive you for the bread you give them."
St. Vincent de Paul, quoted in Fr Walter J. Burghardt's "Love is a Flame of the Lord: More Homilies on the Just Word" (Mahwah: Paulist Press, 1995) 139.
The dating issues are somewhat a bit over my head at the moment, but I do agree with you that HH suggestions are not wise and I would go further and say that he is wasting his time and our's even mentioning when we have other more vexing issues at the moment.
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