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Do we sing Tenen on Bright Saturday?

GreatestSinner
edited December 1969 in Hymns Discussion
Do we sing Tenen on Bright Saturday? I'm a bit confused...when else can we sing this beautiful hymn?

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  • PopeKyrillosPopeKyrillos
    The correct seasons to sing Tenen are in the month of Kiahk, as well as on Bright Saturday
  • geomike
    [quote author=PopeKyrillos link=topic=13153.msg154435#msg154435 date=1333942239]
    The correct seasons to sing Tenen are in the month of Kiahk, as well as on Bright Saturday


    Tenen is a hymn that is supposed to be said every week in the Midnight Praises, it is just cut out because of time constraints.
  • qawe
    Bishop youssef said only kiahk on cyc
  • georget
    In Egypt all or most churches sing tenen and it is also written in some taks books.
  • geomike
    You guys, tenen isn't a seasonal hymn. It is said all year round just like Kirie Eleison 41 times before the procession of the lamb. It just isn't said because there isn't enough time. It is mostly said in kiahk and occasions like it because it is considered to be a "special" time in the year so we decide that we will make the time. But if we were correctly following the rites it would be said every week.


    I am sure minatasgeel will have the same answer.
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=geomike link=topic=13153.msg154448#msg154448 date=1334011834]
    I am sure minatasgeel will have the same answer.

    In most books.......it says the hymns is to be said on Kiahk and Bright saturday. the new opinions that is going around is you can say it annually. I would love to see an old source that says it can be said at any time.

    I am not against saying it annually.....i just don't like it. But i can accept it.
  • geomike
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13153.msg154449#msg154449 date=1334014417]
    [quote author=geomike link=topic=13153.msg154448#msg154448 date=1334011834]
    I am sure minatasgeel will have the same answer.

    In most books.......it says the hymns is to be said on Kiahk and Bright saturday. the new opinions that is going around is you can say it annually. I would love to see an old source that says it can be said at any time.

    I am not against saying it annually.....i just don't like it. But i can accept it.


    In most of the books in this diocese it is annual.
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=geomike link=topic=13153.msg154451#msg154451 date=1334019639]
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13153.msg154449#msg154449 date=1334014417]
    [quote author=geomike link=topic=13153.msg154448#msg154448 date=1334011834]
    I am sure minatasgeel will have the same answer.

    In most books.......it says the hymns is to be said on Kiahk and Bright saturday. the new opinions that is going around is you can say it annually. I would love to see an old source that says it can be said at any time.

    I am not against saying it annually.....i just don't like it. But i can accept it.


    In most of the books in this diocese it is annual.

    What diocese? and what books?
  • geomike
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13153.msg154453#msg154453 date=1334020372]
    [quote author=geomike link=topic=13153.msg154451#msg154451 date=1334019639]
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13153.msg154449#msg154449 date=1334014417]
    [quote author=geomike link=topic=13153.msg154448#msg154448 date=1334011834]
    I am sure minatasgeel will have the same answer.

    In most books.......it says the hymns is to be said on Kiahk and Bright saturday. the new opinions that is going around is you can say it annually. I would love to see an old source that says it can be said at any time.

    I am not against saying it annually.....i just don't like it. But i can accept it.


    In most of the books in this diocese it is annual.

    What diocese? and what books?


    Southern Cali. diocese and the regular tasbeha books. Sorry, i don't have a copy with me so i can't tell you exactly.
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    "regular tasbeha books"...i can only have two in mind, the english psalmody published long ago by Queens church which i believe does say kiahk and bright saturday. There was also another english book. but any english book is really modern....it is as modern as the opinions that are going around. which is fine.....i just need an older source.
  • PopeKyrillosPopeKyrillos
    The notorious black psalmody book from Queens, NY, indeed states that Tenen is to be chanted during Kiahk and on Bright Saturday. The Southern Diocese book, Service of Deacons, likewise states that Tenen is to be chanted, under the Rites of Bright Saturday.

    PK
  • ilovesaintmarkilovesaintmark
    Kiyahk & Bright Saturday Only.

    Ref. Kiyahk Psalmody
    Edited:  Ekladios Yohannes Labib (Bey)
    1911 A.D., 1727 A.M.
    Printed at the time of Pope Kyrillos V (5)
    Relative to the standards placed by Pope Petros (109th Pope)
    Taken from manuscripts from the Syrian Monastery
    Under the direction and supervision of Metropolitan Isaak, Metropolitan of Beni Suef & Bahnisa
    Publishing House:  Ein Shams, Egypt

    I usually don't like to chime in on this stuff, or for that matter identify what is in my personal library, but I couldn't resist.
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    thank you

    wait......you have a physical copy of this book?!
  • ilovesaintmarkilovesaintmark
    4 copies, actually.
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=13153.msg154479#msg154479 date=1334108944]
    4 copies, actually.

    wow. i'd like to see one.......when is the next time you are coming to NJ
  • ilovesaintmarkilovesaintmark
    These books never travel.  They are in an environmentally controlled case.
    Sorry, my friend.
    They are very fragile.
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=13153.msg154482#msg154482 date=1334109759]
    These books never travel.  They are in an environmentally controlled case.
    Sorry, my friend.
    They are very fragile.

    good. when are you inviting me to your house?  :)
  • ilovesaintmarkilovesaintmark
    No comment.
  • TITLTITL
    Hey Mina,

    You want the address?
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    please........
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