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shoria

toitoi
edited December 1969 in Coptic Orthodox Church
Hi,

I wanted to ask you what are the moments during the mass where the deacon has to bring the "shoria"(censor) to the priest.

Thanks

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  • copticuser20copticuser20
    1. After the absolution of the Ministers (when the congregation sings Tai-Shori)
    2. After/Towards the end of the Catholic Epistle
    3. Towards the end of The Hymn of the Trisagion (Agios O-Theos), right before the litany of the Gospel
    4. During the Anaphora, "...who of the Holy Spirit, and of the Holy Virgin Mary" Amen "Was incarnate and became man..."
    5. After the Commemoration of the Saints

    Please add if I forgot something
  • servant33servant33
    [quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12256.msg144080#msg144080 date=1314928447]
    1. After the absolution of the Ministers (when the congregation sings Tai-Shori)
    2. After/Towards the end of the Catholic Epistle
    3. Towards the end of The Hymn of the Trisagion (Agios O-Theos), right before the litany of the Gospel
    4. During the Anaphora, "...who of the Holy Spirit, and of the Holy Virgin Mary" Amen "Was incarnate and became man..."
    5. After the Commemoration of the Saints

    Please add if I forgot something



    Yep, and shortly after 4. in the anaphora when we sing "According to Your mercy..." and Abouna collects and passes the smoke in his hands.
  • andrew8345andrew8345
    Why exactly is abouna handed the censer by an acolyte? There has to be more to it than the fact that it makes life easier for him.
  • copticuser20copticuser20
    [quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12256.msg144103#msg144103 date=1314940264]
    Why exactly is abouna handed the censer by an acolyte? There has to be more to it than the fact that it makes life easier for him.

    Can you explain what an acolyte is? And I thought priests aren't supposed to touch anything since they touch the body. Also, we are the servants, that is why we refer to it as "serving in the altar". That is just my view.
  • toitoi
    Thanks a lot  :)
    During the 4-, isn't the deacon supposed to turn around the altar or something ?
  • HolmesHolmes
    + Irini nem ehmot,

    [quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12256.msg144117#msg144117 date=1314969524]
    [quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12256.msg144103#msg144103 date=1314940264]
    Why exactly is abouna handed the censer by an acolyte? There has to be more to it than the fact that it makes life easier for him.

    Can you explain what an acolyte is?

    In the Eastern Orthodox Church and Eastern Catholic Churches, the nearest equivalent of acolyte is the altar server. At one time there was a rank of minor clergy called the taper-bearer responsible for bearing lights during processions and liturgical entrances. However, this rank has long ago been subsumed by that of the reader and the service for the tonsure of a reader begins with the setting-aside of a taper-bearer.

    The functions of an acolyte or taper-bearer are therefore carried out by readers, subdeacons, or by non-tonsured men or boys who are sometimes called "acolytes" informally. Also, the term "altar-boys" is often used to refer to young altar servers. Subdeacons wear their normal vestments consisting of the sticharion and crossed orarion; readers and servers traditionally wear the sticharion alone.

    In recent times, however, in many of the North American Greek Orthodox Churches, for the sake of uniformity, readers have been permitted to wear the orarion (The Bishop presents the reader, who is to serve on the altar, with the orarion). Readers do not cross the orarion while wearing it, the uncrossed orarion being intended to slightly distinguish a reader from a subdeacon.

    In the Russian tradition, readers wear only the sticharion, and do not wear the orarion unless they have been specially blessed to by their bishop. (This might be done if a reader must occasionally serve in the role of a subdeacon, or for some other reason the bishop believes is fitting.) If a server has not been tonsured, he must remove the sticharion before he can receive Holy Communion.

    In the early church, a taper-bearer was not permitted to enter the sanctuary, only a subdeacon or above was allowed to go in. Nowadays, however, servers are permitted to go in, but they are not permitted either to touch the Holy Table or the Table of Oblation.

    Source

    Or more simply

    ac·o·lyte  (k-lt)
    n.
    1. One who assists the celebrant in the performance of liturgical rites.
    2. A devoted follower or attendant.

    Source
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