He wouldn't learn this hymn just by attending tasbeha regularly, The hymn is only said during Kiahk midnight praise as well as lent. You can try www.copticheritage.org and check their lessons
Do you mean the actual hymn Hos Erof that is chanted inbetween Esmou Epchois and Arihou-o, or are you confused with arihou-o?? Cause this latter hymn is often named Hos Erof while Hos Erof is actually a hymn on its own. It's about 7 minutes and is rarely chanted for some reason. It's really beautifull, but rather unknown among most people, while Arihou-o is really populair and also easier to learn.
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=7798.msg101540#msg101540 date=1238913311] just a small correction: the hymn is annual. I am guessing that, since kiahk praises are meant to last over night, it sometimes is said.
God bless tony
that's just an opinion....not that i disagree with it. same goes for tenen.
just a suggestion that helped me in learning hos erof, the first part is similar to tenen but then goes of for like 2 minutes of hazzats that are special for this hymn and All El Asr, then goes into like a 2 minutes of "ry" from Taishori elhazany then switches into the hazzats of "anok" from anok pe pi koji (psalm 151 chanted during Bright Saturday) then continues with hazzats from earlier in the hymn of anok pe pi koji then concludes with a little tentheno the long one and just a few hazzats and its done...i know it looks confusing but trust me its one of the easiest hymns and the most beautiful to learn and understand because there is theology in that hymn
i haven't learned that hymn yet, but generally you don't always need a ma3allem to teach you, you can just get the audio file and learn it yourself.
A trick that i use is using an audio editing software. and with that you can place the bar at a certain spot and then play it for a certain period of time and then just press space twice (stop and then play) and it will start where you had the bar originally and you can keep doing this so as to learn the hymn part by part just like a mu3allam would teach you.
i actually find this more beneficial than a mu3allem sometimes because i can keep going over the parts that don't stick in easily as many times as i want until they do stick in.
actually, there is a software developped by somebody at my Church... you can guess what its called: HYMN TEACHER it basically places 2 markers in the Lahn, and it can repeat this area, and you can cut many parts out like this.... and it also has its own text library for Alhan...
[quote author=geomike link=topic=7798.msg104213#msg104213 date=1245640004] where can i get this?
from this site http://www.alhan-youthbishopric.com/alhan/ under download section then programs. but this site is Arabic. if you can not just PM me and I will send it to you direct. N.B. I did this program, waiting for your comment.
[quote author=elfarfamily link=topic=7798.msg104161#msg104161 date=1245360046] ...i know it looks confusing but trust me its one of the easiest hymns and the most beautiful to learn and understand because there is theology in that hymn
elfarfamily, can you please elaborate on the theology in the hymn? I'd love to know more.
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Do you mean the actual hymn Hos Erof that is chanted inbetween Esmou Epchois and Arihou-o, or are you confused with arihou-o?? Cause this latter hymn is often named Hos Erof while Hos Erof is actually a hymn on its own. It's about 7 minutes and is rarely chanted for some reason. It's really beautifull, but rather unknown among most people, while Arihou-o is really populair and also easier to learn.
God bless
tony
Pray for me,
Michael
just a small correction: the hymn is annual. I am guessing that, since kiahk praises are meant to last over night, it sometimes is said.
God bless
tony
that's just an opinion....not that i disagree with it. same goes for tenen.
A trick that i use is using an audio editing software. and with that you can place the bar at a certain spot and then play it for a certain period of time and then just press space twice (stop and then play) and it will start where you had the bar originally and you can keep doing this so as to learn the hymn part by part just like a mu3allam would teach you.
i actually find this more beneficial than a mu3allem sometimes because i can keep going over the parts that don't stick in easily as many times as i want until they do stick in.
pray for me
it basically places 2 markers in the Lahn, and it can repeat this area, and you can cut many parts out like this.... and it also has its own text library for Alhan...
God Bless You
where can i get this?
from this site http://www.alhan-youthbishopric.com/alhan/
under download section then programs.
but this site is Arabic.
if you can not just PM me and I will send it to you direct.
N.B. I did this program, waiting for your comment.
i get the same thing...is it just me? or what?
the site is just down for now....i hope!!
what is the right font to view this...i am getting weird things
Arabic Windows-1256
...i know it looks confusing but trust me its one of the easiest hymns and the most beautiful to learn and understand because there is theology in that hymn
elfarfamily, can you please elaborate on the theology in the hymn? I'd love to know more.
Thanks in advance!