this is because i realised i have nearly derailed the discussion on communion cloths / napkins!
so this is a place where everyone can post tips on how to patiently wait to be allowed to resume going back to church.
if you are in a country / state where you can't go to church, you can tell us how you cope, and if you are going to church, you can tell us how beautiful it is.
i find that while i am praying from the agpeya, my thoughts stray to how i could accidently end up locked inside the church without anyone noticing and then take part in the liturgy from under a chair or behind a curtain...
then i go back to what i was praying, add several more 'kyrie eleison's and accept that God knows what is best, and that He is everywhere and knows all things and loves us more than we love each other.
we can be close to Him in prayer and in being kind to people.
anyone else have any tips? hopefully better than mine!
so i had to travel to take part in some medical research today (as a 'healthy subject'), and it is a bit too far to cycle all the way so i adjusted my journey so i had just a short trip on public transport and then cycled the rest of the way.
the journey just so happened to pass 2 orthodox churches (well, after i altered the direction slightly!), so at least i could see them from the outside.
i am training my muscles so that i can cycle to church and back (13mile [20km]) round trip and not use public transport, so leaving more space for other people on the train.
is anyone else that desperate or is it just me?
I miss the Church so much.
I pray that this be a valuable lesson for our generation and for all generations to come,
+ “Don’t take your Mother for granted, just because you see Her often. Once we were longing to, but were not able to see Her at all...” +
You live in the UK, correct? Perhaps you should come to the Northeastern U.S. from November to April. Where I live in Pennsylvania, the high was 4 degrees Celsius on May 11th and it was 0 on the 10th with snow. It's been seven months of cold weather.
We have extremely long and very cold winters, and the infrastructure of our country outside of large urban areas is not suitable for walking.
I've heard this from so many friends and family in Europe and New Zealand, "You're all fat because you all drive!"
If you live south of the Scottish Highlands in the British Isles, your definition of winter is our Spring. And your weather may be grey and rainy, but you don't have two months where you don't see grass.
I'm all for being observant of the environment, but not all countries are built for walking as the UK and the EU. Especially a much younger one which was growing as technology grew along with it.
I don't think most people would walk on the Garden State Parkway or Jersey Turnpike. Unfortunately, we created the automobile and designed our cities to accommodate that type of travel.
The church is the Bride of Christ and who misses Christ misses the church as everyone here had said already. Please beware there is no salvation outside the church..
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Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on
this mountain nor in Jerusalem. ... God is spirit, and his worshipers must
worship in spirit and in truth."
The New Testament Church is a group of people called out of this
world’s society by God, even if they meet in a rented hall or on a grassy
hillside. For example, the apostle Paul greeted the church—the congregation of
people—that met in the house of Priscilla and Aquila in Rome (Romans 16:3-5)When the New Testament talks about the
Church, it speaks of an assembly of people.
In the Bible the word church is a translation of the Greek word ekklesia, meaning “a
calling out.” It never refers to a building or meeting place, but always to
people, the ones “called out” of the world’s society by God calling them into
Just some bible thoughts on how we should keep things in perspective. :)
I do believe that as mentioned in another post you are not a Coptic Orthodox. I for one do not dispute at all the Bible verses you have kindly provided but I think we should agree to disagree on our views. In the Coptic Orthodox writings you may find a clear explanation of the principle and the importance of being inside the church. This is a very difficult time for Christians all over the world that God allowed to take place, primarily because the faithful cannot go to church. I am not going to repeat what I had said before in other threads as I don't want to portray myself as something when I am nothing but suffice it to say that I am disappointed in many figures around me at this point. I am afraid to die having been away from the church for that long..
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No offence taken at all and I am sorry that I sounded that way. I cannot agree more about the status of God's word and I never alluded to any traditions. Orthodox writing and teaching is not a tradition and this is where I see us in disagreement, hence my asking to agree to disagree..
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so who has been to church?
was it weird the first time back?
did you cry a lot (i will)?
i am trying to figure out how it will be so i am prepared (other than taking plenty of tissues).
i did go to church in my dreams last night, that was lovely, less stressful that i thought it would be.
that is so nice for you. i had a good day today too.
i got to meet nice Christians at work today, 1 client and 1 colleague.
nearly as good!
congratulations, minatasgeel, on your new daughter!
make it a long, slow baptism to make the most of being in church.
and thanks so much, italian coptic, yr prayers are very welcome.
although it is more likely to be crunchy veg with dips and kofta / falafel (depending on the season), served with water, and followed by tea and cakes!
(i prefer proper dinner to snacks!)
jojo hanna, you are invited too, and bring everyone else from the forums...