So you want to learn coptic

Faithfull Servant 1

Does anyone know where I can get this book from or something like this on pdf?

God Bless

Zoxsasi

I know there are courses given on YouTube.

 

Well done for making this initiative, by the way! I wish I could learn Coptic also as a language. I find that the Tasbeha is done so fast that I cannot keep up at times.

Faithfull Servant 1

A link would be great to go to youtube. And the tasbeha and hymns is the main reason as to why I would like to learn coptic, I love the coptic hymns and praises but I dont get to understand all of it so a solution would be to learn it!

God Bless

Zoxsasi

That's very pro-active of you to take it upon yourself to learn this awesome language.

I'm sure if you typed Learn Coptic in YouTube, you'll get loads of videos. However, I think these videos are there to help you learn how to read Coptic, not really how to understand it as a language.

 

Good luck!

BishoyK

Nice work faithful

many of us like learning the hymns but we often forget about the beauty of the language starting with myself

here are a few links u might like to checkout

PDF's

http://www.copticplace.com/coptic_languge/coptic.html

http://www.coptic.net/copticweb/contributions/copticlanguagelessons.pdf

youtube

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF3812ED5FEFB3B81

God bless u on this journey

BishoyK

I also just found this

hopefully its the bok ur talking about

u will only get the first 58 pages with this link so maybe buying it would be a great idea

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=-IHe-B480K8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Faithfull Servant 1

Thank you guys so much for your help and support, please pray for me! And with the last link I stumbled upon it as well but I was hoping someone could provide a link to buy it within Australia as most of those sites do not have it in stock so maybe any Australians know a good shop around the place or maybe in your bookshop at church that has it?

God Bless

lfahmy

I just saw this post. I have the book, so if you haven't bought it yet and want to ask questions, I'm open. I also have a bunch of other random pdfs with coptic basics.

Faithfull Servant 1

Thats great! Would you mind me asking where did you buy it from, I'm still looking for a place to buy it from (with relatively low shipping! cuase I'm Egyptian born and raised!). It would be great to have a look at the pdfs as well. I was also wandering if anything you had contained a table for the 14 prefixes, sorry I don't know their technical name but for example 1st would be present simple - I = ti You=ek etc. for all 14 tenses it would be terrific if you do!

God Bless 

Zoxsasi

the people in my church sing the tasbeha so fast that I might as well learn Coptic also just to keep up. Its too fast to even read the translation whilst they are singing in Coptic.

 

lfahmy

Zoxsasi, I know! That's one of the reasons I'm learning Coptic. 

And sure faithful servant. Btw faithful only has one "L", but that's okay :)

I got the book from iBooks. So if you have any apple product with iBooks, it should work. 

Here is the link to a page full of random coptic sources: http://suscopts.org/deacons/coptic.shtml

You seem like you know more than is taught in a lot of the pdfs, but there is also a few dictionaries, and I believe the one by plumely is a source for so you want to learn Coptic".

Those prefixes are called dependent personal pronouns or just subject prefixes

They are ti (I), ek (you masc),te (you fem), ef (he), es (she), ten (we), teten (you plural), se (they)

The subject prefix for you masculine can be either a kei (x looking thing) with a jinkim or a kappa (k looking thing) with a jinkim. This depends on the first letter of the infinitive. If the first letter is one of the vilminor letters, then kei with a jinkim is used. Kappa with a jinkim is used for all other letters. 

I randomly found this pdf with a tiny but useful portion of the book, which also explains what the vilminor letters are.

http://stpachomius.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Coptic-definite-and-indefinite-articles.pdf

Feel free to ask any questions. Hope that helped

lfahmy

http://books.google.com/books?id=-IHe-B480K8C&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=vilminor+letters+coptic&source=bl&ots=219qFFxNVi&sig=mlp6pa0mjTnj0AgT28E9BSMbTDI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=L2FYU6DGEKyG2wW-goHQDg&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=vilminor letters coptic&f=false

This link has a pretty big preview also.

Faithfull Servant 1

Thanks Ifahmy, I realised that after I made the username...oh well!

God Bless

Faithfull Servant 1

Oh Just found this!

http://www.lulu.com/au/en/shop/sameh-younan/so-you-want-to-learn-coptic-a-guide-to-bohairic-grammar/ebook/product-17479287.html

God Bless

Zoxsasi

lol... faithful Servant 1; I'd put a $1000 dollar bet that your real name is Sameh Younan. ;)

 

Faithfull Servant 1

hahaha  :-$

Zoxsasi

Habibi.. if you lower the price of the book to 5 euros, I'll buy one.

Faithfull Servant 1

haha I don't know what the conversion is from euro to USD but it cant be that much... you know what just for you I'll bump it up!

Zoxsasi

That's not fair.. leh keda? Im a nice person.

 

Faithfull Servant 1

hehe If I was Sameh Younan I'd give it to you for free but I'm not sadly... so I guess your gona have to fork out the 17 bucks 

God Bless

St. Pachom

@lfahmy how deep does that book go? I understand basic Coptic grammar and can translate some pieces but I want to learn all the strange conjugations and what not and start looking at manuscripts eventually. Should I get this book or something more advanced?

Faithfull Servant 1

@St. Pachom 

I just bought this book and for me it goes pretty deep and it doesn't seem like its just basic grammar. You can look at the contents page in the google link above.

God Bless

St. Pachom

@Faithfulservant1 thanks it looks pretty good!

P.S. don't use spaces when you tag someone ;)

Faithfull Servant 1

hahaha thanks @St.Pachom

Faithfull Servant 1

what it still didn't work I think the system just doesn't like you!

Mare `Vnou] `cmou erok

Oujai qen `P[oic

mabsoota

i'm now on lesson 5 of the coptic youth channel you tube videos!

in only 50 years, i'll understand ophadece...

eshlil ethveet!

(pray for me)

St. Pachom

Pachom
against the world!

}sep`hmot `ntotk `Vbok `nte `Fnah] =A 

St. Pachom

@mabsoota I suggest you download Coptic Fonts. Then at least your coptic will look like his! ;)

mabsoota

yeah, will get round to it.

:-)

عندي عربي بس

(i only have arabic)

coptic fonts for mac are very hard work.

pachom, what is your signature?

as i said, i don't know much coptic yet!

lfahmy

Pachom, I'm not too sure about the strange conjugations. If you read the other Coptic related discussion, someone commented and mentioned some verbs that maintain weird conjugations. I'm not sure of they're in the book though. I couldn't find any when I looked.

lfahmy

The other discussion is thomas pasotp and the commenter was archdeacon