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  • Hi @George27 This hymn bears no relation to swtais amen. This hymn is called Alleluja oblations and is said during the selection of the lamb. It is usually skipped altogether because people mistakenly say Kyrialayson which is essentially the end of …
  • Do you mean three different languages? Haha.. (the quote button didn't work, I meant to reply to your comment "two different languages").. Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ
  • Of course @AndrewRezk.. The first anba is ⲁⲃⲃⲁ which refers to the higher clergy people, i.e. bishops (including monastery heads), metropolitans and patriarchs, so you will find it frequently in the congregation of saints in the liturgy from whom we…
  • Hi @AndrewRezk I think they are saying "ebkhebs" which is right rather than "et". Be or eb mean "the" because lamp is a noun, not an adjective. Alle altre parole be o eb significano "il/la" perché lamp è un nome, non è un aggettivo. The mistake in …
  • Hi @AndrewRezk 1) through the prayers of our fathers the patriarchs, anba Athanasius the apostolic, and anba Kyrollos the pillar of the faith, and Dioscoros (bikhebs not "etkhebs") the lamp of Orthodoxy, anba Kyrollos the sixth, o Lord... 2) throug…
  • Hi @Jojo_Hanna, What I am going to say now is so arbitrary, but if other churches have a better practice with Coptic hymns, I would be grateful if they share. Obviously the length could be modified based on the duration of Communion. Adam annual da…
  • OK, ⲡⲓϫⲓⲛⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ = the response (the verb ⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ is to answer as in the hymn ⲅⲟⲗⲅⲟⲑⲁ : ⲁϥⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ ⲛⲁϥ ⲛ̀ϫⲉ Ⲡϭⲥ) Ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲱϩⲉⲙ = the repetition, the verb means to repeat. Ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ = of Ⲡⲓⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲥ = the psalm Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • OK, ⲡⲓϫⲓⲛⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ = the response (the verb ⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ is to answer as in the hymn ⲅⲟⲗⲅⲟⲑⲁ : ⲁϥⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ ⲛⲁϥ ⲛ̀ϫⲉ Ⲡϭⲥ) Ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲱϩⲉⲙ = the repetition, the verb means to repeat. Ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ = of Ⲡⲓⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲥ = the psalm Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Hi @Jojo_Hanna Please explain what you mean! I am being quite thick these days! Do you mean the literal translation? Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Ⲡⲓϫⲓⲛⲉⲣⲟⲩⲱ (ⲓⲉ ⲡⲓⲟⲩⲱϩⲉⲙ) ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ ⲡⲓⲯⲁⲗⲙⲟⲥ Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Yes we are, although I personally would exhaust the "Lordly" hymns first and also limit the doxologies to the watos days (Wednesday - Saturday), we have very few Adam doxologies. At least there are asbasmoses Adam and watos for the saints and angels…
  • Hi @menafayik I'm not sure if this question was directed to me, but personally speaking I would choose ⲡⲟⲩⲣⲟ ⲛ̀ⲧⲉ ϯϩⲓⲣⲏⲛⲏ, ⲟⲩⲛⲟϥ ⲙ̀ⲙⲟ Ⲙⲁⲣⲓⲁ, and ⲁⲡⲉⲕⲣⲁⲛ. Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Hi @minatasgeel I still don't get the point of your question really. I hope @msmekhael has answered your question to some extent. Anyway, I am hoping that you will enlighten me with your answer lest I misunderstand what you mean - I actually know ho…
  • @minatasgeel, I don't get your point actually. The way I see it is that our dogmas and faith are connected to our hymns and we may be spreading wrong teachings by compromising and pleasing the majority. I hope I understood at least partly your quest…
  • Dear @msmekhael I can't describe enough how pleased I am to see that we are in agreement 110% and not just 100%, thanks a lot really. The only thing I have an issue with, but I do know it is a personal problem, is that we keep doing what we are doin…
  • Hi @msmekhael, Thank you very much for your post. I can see that you thoroughly understood my point and I will therefore need not repeat the things I said before. Now I have heard this saying too many times in different versions, "rites were made fo…
  • Yes @minatasgeel and that leads us to the discussion on the common wrong vs the unrecognised right. For me just because some people find it OK to say something that doesn't make it right and it should only mean they need to be taught. We have a vari…
  • Many thanks @minatasgeel.. very well said. By the way I forgot to say something in the post I wrote above, please also note that tasbeha hymns (be it midnight praises, vespers praises, etc) should not be used during the liturgy and especially commun…
  • Dear all, Like @Daniel_Kyrillos I was waiting for someone more knowledgeable to shed more light on the answer of @theseanvert. However let's be very clear and not confused about something (unfortunately we all live in the diaspora where the practice…
  • Thanks @Daniel_Kyrillos, I assumed that people know this but please be careful that whether we calculate the day on the Jewish calendar day, or Gregorian calendar day, two Communion distributions must not take place on any one day, hence the violati…
  • Hi @menafayik, Yes it was just for convenience as you rightly said. As Mina pointed above, the genuine rites for liturgies used to be in the early hours of the morning, while it's dark and after midnight praises, a practice still followed in the Egy…
  • Hi @msmekhael, Thank you very much for your post. I will thoroughly reply to all your points later, I hope by the weekend, or if not, right after. Have a blessed Theophany feast.. Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ Ⲡϭⲥ
  • Hi @menafayik, I believe the reason is a historical one with the advent of government and governmental positions in the 19th century as far as I am aware, hence people missing the prayers. I think therefore it was decided that liturgies would be sta…
  • Hi @Minaeskander, I actually have no idea if pope Shenouda had entered a mosque, but if he did then he had also transgressed. It's interesting you said not to confuse politics with religion and that's the whole point of my post. Politics is being us…
  • Hi @ReturnOrthodoxy, I can't agree more with what you said. I actually think people of this age are more stubborn and hard to convince. I have one question though, what do you mean saying 71 were obnoxious? Are you describing the people who persecut…
  • Hi @minatasgeel You may have misunderstood my point. A lot of the time I log in to the website through the mobile and it is not easy to expand on my thoughts easily so I am sorry for that.. At no point ever have I or do I intimate isolation. I don't…
  • Dear @Joshuaa,All your comments are great, and generally agree with what I said before; many thanks for elaborating on them so nicely. However, let me be clear, because I didn't want someone to compare apples to oranges. St Paul went into Greek temp…
  • Thanks a lot dear @Amdah, no apology needed at all.. I benefited from your comments, so I thank you for something that you should not apologise for having said.. Psychologically speaking you hit the nail on the head and I totally agree.. I just hope…
  • Dear @Amdah, Thank you very much for your post. Please do search for the theme "شركة المؤمنين مع غير المؤمنين" on st-takla.org, which translates to "communion of the faithful with the unfaithful" and you will find many resources from which I extract…
  • Thanks @minatasgeel,I hope you have not assumed that I looked these up on a whim; my understanding is you can read Arabic, so please search www.st-takla.org and you will find a huge number of resources..Oujai qen P[c