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??? Again, if you want to know where i stand regarding the bible (i.e. my position) and information regarding my knowledge of the bible and teachings of christianity, you can pm me. And for the record Im not satan, because for the most part i don…
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Whats stupid Imikhail is people trying to find out what I personally believe and people trying to preach to me in a public thread that is based on a completely different topic. Do it in a message. I'd be happy to have a friendly conversation about m…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12337.msg145456#msg145456 date=1317456529] Dear Copticyouth86, If you claim yourself to be a homosexual you are unrighteous, living in a state of sin, blaspheming against the Holy Spirit and you will be thrown into…
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Ophadece, Impugning someone's motives because they spell god with a small g? Really? Could you explain your reasoning? Oh and Btw i've I changed my opinion on Jesus killing himself see previous post ;) Cy
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Actually I could be wrong .."if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me..." Again this is irrelevant to the bigger point being made here so i'll repost: Neither of you can say with certainty that this child is in hell. You don't know if th…
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Yes Jesus committed suicide. Any person who intentionally takes their lives for whatever reason has committed suicide. The stigma or association of suicide is what impedes you from acknowledging this. I appreciate your efforts but I don't read arab…
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Its a plea to end his life. Call it a prayer, a wish, what ever you like..
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If the definition of suicide is the intention of taking one's own life, then Samson committed suicide. The only difference is god 'allowed' it, in which case I refer you to my previous post. Cy
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A final chance? A what? First of all, all that I'm arguing is that you could not possibly know if someone is in hell for suicide. How do you know that god didn't also allow or condone this act of suicide, or other suicides? You don't. Whats more if…
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Returntoorthodoxy, how do you know that this 14 year old child committed the so called detestable sins your accusing him of? And how do you know he s in hell? Has every person who committed suicide been condemned to he…
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Imikhail, the claims in your last post have no basis in reality, and are insulting. Please educate yourself on this issue before making baseless assertions, unless of course you are able to justify your claims. Cy Edit: Apologies for personal att…
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041622/Jamey-Rodemeyer-funeral-Lady-Gagas-tribute-gay-teen-committed-suicide.html Thoughts?
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Hi Remnkemi, So in your opinion in order for God to work in the lives of people they would perhaps require a place where that can happen most effectively i.e. church? Also you said that people who are same-sex inclined have …
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Severian, by welcome do you mean 'receive and treat someone hospitably'?
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Hi Joshua, While I agree that the church and some homosexuals see the issue in a different light, I'd also point out that there are like wise some homosexuals who see it as the church do and try to change or alter their sexuality, som…
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returnorthodoxy and ilovestmark, theres nothing more stupid and dare I say idiotic than someone attacking an argument thats not being made. No one on this thread has stated that the church should a…
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PeterA, There is a difference between a sermon and a discussion. So the intention, once again, of this podcast is to propagate (healthy) discussion. Which you inadvertently pointed out, isn't happening at church on the scale you me…
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Imikhail, welcoming people regardless of sexual orientation, drinking, cursing, drug use, smoking habits in the first place is a start. To your more recent question, how do you be more sensitive to people who are homosexuals? In my o…
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Imikhail, I have to agree with Unworthy 1 your logic is not only silly but you don't seem to have an ounce of compassion on this issue. Furthermore 'not welcoming homosexuals into the church' is not at all present in any of those verse…
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Imikhail, you say? So again I ask you where does your authority come from? Or are you willing to concede that you're merely expressing a baseless opinion? Cy
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Stavroforos, I fail to see how we've been 'going around in circles'. I addressed your responses in my last post and then asked you for the justifications of the claims you made. Now if you can't justify those claims then say so, b…
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Specific reference?
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By what authority do you declare such a ruling?
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"Once again, the authority of the Bible is questioned. The Holy Bible is always applicable. The Bible has been around for a while and until this day there was never an instance where the Bible was not applicable. Again, I do not follow your logic as…
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"The fact that you put the word sin in quotation marks says it all really. If you aren't convinced that homosexuality is a sin, you must either be one or more of three things:" My personal religious belief is irrelevant to the argument. "But when …
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Hi Stavroforos, I appreciate your post, and your opinions and I'll do my best to address them as clearly as I can: I'm not claiming that the word of god is inferior, I'm saying that it isn't always applicable. How useful are …
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Hi Stavroforos, thanks for the comment! The biblical perspective isn't necessarily disregarded it should just be given less of a priority over the 'human perspective'. But what is meant by human perspective? The 'human perspect…
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Unworhty1, perhaps discussing the actual issue at hand would be more useful than quoting two useless lines that say nothing about the topic. No one in the podcast claimed they were authorities on any of these subjects or devout Cop…
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You still haven't provided any proof or justification or evidence for the accusation of the APPARENT agenda you are accusing me of. But here is some parting advice that should be helpful in your everyday life: Judge an argument or a position based …
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Dzheremi, its actually really tiring to address questions and comments that are irrelevant and completely misrepresent what I'm saying. So until you actually begin to understand what I'm saying, then feel free not to post anything o…