@EstephanosPhilipos.... of course, when arguments fall short, we just put the blame on leaders... But who do you think advices these leaders?! Still us.
@ItalianCoptic...that's what i have been saying all along. Equate English (or the local language) to Arabic, and NOT Coptic... In doing so, you don't even get the issue of reinventing the current structure of the liturgy which does accommodate a due…
That's the setup that we have been doing at St. Mark's Jersey City as far as i remember...since 1999 i believe. But the difference is, it's not an all-english liturgy, it's a coptic/english liturgy and the other is coptic/arabic liturgy.....the midd…
I fail to see that proposal to be anything other than a separation between the churches. And I actually personally disagree with having immigrants based churches as a whole. Even in a moderately english balanced church, we struggle with helping immi…
I don't think referencing the Ethiopian church is a good example. Different times and we are not sure exactly what happened there. Also, all of africa was under the jurisdiction of the Church of Alexandria at the time, and we don't exactly know how …
@EstephanosPhilipos. @Daniel_Kyrillos is from the states. And while you are correct about having some churches already taking that step, the idea is greatly criticized and creeps up all the time in other areas in which there isn't a bishop that will…
This is a non-ending argument--I have it all the time with many individuals--and sadly, the middle ground is never acceptable to the anti-coptic extreme. Since I am pro-coptic, I just wanna give some quick responses to the points above. "We are the …
Nothing happens when I go-to the link ... Just takes me to their homepage. Also, doesn't sound like a good source in general.
From what I have heard though, this custom was never a thing in church and that's the same case for FGM. But, rural areas …
It looks like I am going to be locking all homosexuality posts.
@metouro...please stop digging up these discussions. You are welcome to look at them and read, but we are not talking about this topic again...hence me deleting your comment.
@menneerya…
I am speaking as an American . I agree with you about civil unions, and we don't have those in the states. But, we can agree on resolving that problem instead of redefining marriage. Fix laws to accommodate that distinction. Tell the government that…
I expected this whole thing of "separation of church and state" to come up...which today is not really defined. Thomas Jefferson is the first to use that phrase to defend the church from the acts of state, referencing the freedom of religion clause.…
That's something that you can't just talk about lightly. You have to consider first how are you judging the hymn....are we talking about differences in a small number of hazzat, or different places to pause, or different syllables to stop at, or the…
@metouro. This topic is a bit complicated and numbers are for sure hard to provide. But, the Orthodox Church's stance is the same. That being said, you have to consider that we cannot deal with homosexuality without considering it to be like any oth…
Yes, but that is the same for many other verses in the NT too. But that is not good enough for the Church to just ignore what she had always included in the Tradition of the Bible. The Bible is not defined by scholars, but it's defined by and is fou…
That idea has been thrown around a lot, that is the tune is close to ϧⲉⲛ ⲟⲩϣⲱⲧ and that's why it's called that. But here is a major problem with that, ϧⲉⲛ ⲟⲩϣⲱⲧ is NOT the song of Moses... The first hoos is. ϧⲉⲛ ⲟⲩϣⲱⲧ is a lobsh, and has been called…
Well, - For Hosanna Sunday and Feast of the Cross: the tune is sha3anini, which i believe the source we have is Arch Fahim...which we think he got from M Tawfik (he might have a recording). I don't know why HCOC said Khen Efran, but may it's mention…
I wouldn't go that far and make that conclusions....there are too many things we don't know about the difnar and commentaries texts, let alone their tunes.
Lol. The synod doesn't, or at least hasn't, really said anything about these... BUT they are, in a way, made up and were made popular by M Ibrahim. Many people don't like them. That's ok... But we don't have to blame the synod for not choosing to sa…