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quick question?!?!?!
I brought a holy bible but i realized later on that it's not New King James Version but it's New International Version
i just want to know it's ok to use this kind of version
what's the difference between them?
hope to hear from you guys
thanks
i just want to know it's ok to use this kind of version
what's the difference between them?
hope to hear from you guys
thanks
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salam ;D
okay, salam delwa2t :)
Fibo
Any version of the Bible that is accepted by our Church is fine. However, khod balak ma3ayah ba2a, using the OSD (Orthodox Study Bible) will serve you best. leih? why? because in the margins of the Book, they include references and theological sources that could aid you when reading the Bible.
I would dissagree, because the OSB uses the NKJV, which is a Protestant translation. Secondly, although the notes are Orthodox in their teaching, the language used is equally Protestant, which can be a hinderance to aquiring an Orthodox minset and approach to the Bible.
The reason the notes have been written in this way is simply because the OSB is a missionary tool which attempts to explain the Orthodox religion to a Protestant American audience. This makes it great for Protestants thinking of converting, but not quite as helpful for those of us who are already Orthodox.
That being said, they are now working on the very first Orthodox translation of the Septuagint OT into English, which will be released around Pascha 2007, and that will certainly be better than anything you can find now.
For the NT, however, I recommend the Orthodox New Testament. It is the only Orthodox translation of the NT into English which means there is none of the Protestant bias one finds in translations such as NIV and NKJV, etc.
Additionally, the study notes that accompany the text (particularly with regards to the Gospels) is far superior to the OSB. This is because they are much more extensive, and because they are taken almost entirely from the works of Church Fathers - particularly St John Chrysostom, St Basil the Great and St Cyril of Alexandria.
The two volumes can be purchased here:
Gospels - http://www.holyapostlesconvent.org/HacWebStore/product_info.php?cPath=1_2&products_id=8
Acts-Revelation - http://www.holyapostlesconvent.org/HacWebStore/product_info.php?cPath=1_2&products_id=9
Of the Protestant translations, the RSV and KJV are probably the best ones available.
There is nothing wrong with the NIV as such, though, other than the fact that itsn't an Orthodox translation. I do not believe you will become a heretic for reading it, something which might happen with translations such as the NWT, which is biased towards arianism.
why it's not good it's only bible it doesn't have anything else. It doesn't have description at the bottom of the page and it doesn't have translation either
so how come it's not good to use
let me know
i need an answer ofcourse i respect ur answer
so hope to hear from u
luv
mb
it doesn't have translation either
Unless you're reading the Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek you're reading a translation. When you translate something from one language into another, the end result will always reflect the understanding of the person doing the translation.
The NIV and NKJV are both Protestant translations (although the NIV did use a couple of RCs, an EO and a Jew), and so they will reflect Protestant theology.
For example, the Hebrew word "ruach" and the Greek word "pneuma" both mean spirit. But they can also mean wind or breath.
A traditional Christian would render Genesis 1:2 as "..and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters" (RSV), because they understand this to mean the Holy Spirit sanctifying creation.
Someone else, however, who does not understand this passage might translate it "...while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters" (NRSV)
It is therefore important that you get a translation which best reflects the Orthodox understanding of Scripture. No Orthodox translation of the OT will be available until 2007 (see lxx.org) but there is an Orthodox translation of the NT available - The Orthodox New Testament - and so you'd be better off getting that.
Another factor to consider is that some translations of the Bible are literal - trying to be as close to the original as the English language allows - whereas others are paraphrases - focusing on conveying the meaning of the original rather than being word for word.
From what I understand, the NIV is a paraphrase, whereas the NKJV is more literal.
Stick with that, you can't go wrong.
try to return it and you could probably purchase one form your local church or if you ask the Priest he will tell you where tog et one or make one available to you!!
Good Luck
(alot of people have more than one maybe someone can give you theirs?)
I brought a holy bible but i realized later on that it's not New King James Version but it's New International Version
i just want to know it's ok to use this kind of version
what's the difference between them?
hope to hear from you guys
thanks
The NIV is not a bad one. it's accepted byt our orthodox church and it can be used. i don't really include my opinion because i don't really know much but i know that NKJV is the most prefered in our church. also somtime NIV would provide batter understanding to some words. i know that my priest, here in St. Mark's JC, (Fr Abraam Sleman), sometimes uses NIV as a batter source in his sermons and bible studies.
Please forgive me and pray for me,
Godhelpme3691
the bible i reffered to doesnt change the translation of the kings james version it just uses a simpler word with the same meaning and makes it easier for some of us who arent as smart as others :)
Although you may not see the change in meaning, it may still be there.
It is hard to rewrite something and not change the meaning a little bit.
Godhelpme3691, by better worded, do you mean that instead of using "Thy", it may just say "Your". If so, than I do think that that is the only difference between the KJV and the NKJV, that the KJV uses older English while the KJV uses more modern English.
you should buy a new king james version Bible it is the version used by the Coptic Orthodox Church as it is the most correct translation. incorrect translation DOES change the meaning!
The NKJV, along with the RSV, is the most correct of the Protestant translations, which is why the Coptic Orthodox Church has authorised its use. However, it is far from perfect.
The Old Testament of the NKJV, for example, is based on the Masoretic texts used by the Jews, whereas the official Old Testament of the Orthodox Church has always been the Septuagint (LXX), which was the OT used by the Apostles and the Church Fathers, which differs somewhat from the Masoretic text.
Also, the NT of the NKJV, although being pretty good, contains certain errors.
Luke 2:22 in the NKJV reads "Now when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord" - "her" meaning St Mary
The original Greek, however, reads "their purification" (tou katharismou autwn).
So what the Bible actually says is that Jesus was brought to Jerusalem on the day of their, the Jew's, purification - not Mary's purification.
This is quite a minor difference, but reflect Protestant Mariology. Mary had no need of purification, and was only going to the temple to fulfill the Law.
Protestants have a much lesser regard for the Virign than the Orthodox, and so interpreted the passage to mean that the Virgin needed purification, and thus wrongly translated the passage to read "her purification" rather than "their purification".
And so to quote you again "incorrect translation DOES change the meaning!", and this is true also of the NKJV.
This is why the Orthodox New Testament, which is the only Orthodox translation of the NT into English available, is superior as I keep saying. The reason why the Church has yet to make this its official translation is probably because it is, as of yet, little known and only the NT is available so far.