SilentOne is the only one yet to bring challenge to the debate.
Quotes 1-3 + 5 show simply that God is the same. How we feel in his presence is simply the effect of our deeds and actions.
Quote 4 is a strong argument...but, if we can get perhaps o…
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You just love to make me feel bad don't you?
Well, the same can be true of heaven. How is St. Mary the "highest" in heaven then below her are the heavenly creatures then…
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Since this somehow turned to a crap-match between me and you for 'points' or 'honor', forget it.
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Severus,
We've asked more questions than you and you haven't answered any of them. I'm struggling to find time to come to Tasbeha anymore so although researching in the …
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what in the world are you 2 arguing about. both your statements are continuation of each other.....do …
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[quote author=Severus link=topic=7163.msg95179#msg95179 date=1223406787]
I take it that the silence that now befalls this thread is proof the not one could find evidence from t…
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He is not an archdeacon or a full deacon. He is what the pope recently ranked him as "arch epsaltos."…
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I want to see the words of a Church Father on this subject, now that you bring them up.
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[quote author=mahraeel link=topic=7163.msg95110#msg95110 date=1223243425]
lol yea please understand im not arguing. lol i just dont get it haha thankss personally thats wat i thught alll my lifee
+mahraeel+
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Not at all. I just want to see…
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I would be pretty surprised if he was not an archdeacon. He's the muallem of St. Mark's Cathedral in Cairo. That's a huge title. Also, I'm pretty sure deacons don't wear t…
Let's say I lied the other day and neglected to confess it. It was still on my consciousness. I get into a car accident and die.
This would lead to the same result as if I killed someone and someone in return killed me. Meaning, I am judged, and go…
We use the single verse, "the wages of sin is death", as the refutation to the idea of lesser and greater sins. That is the Orthodox source that I know of.
It is an interesting debate indeed.
It is of the Orthodox Faith to believe that all sins of equal. To say otherwise would be to go against the Orthodox doctrines that we are to believe.
There is no such thing as a justified sin or a minor sin. All sin equals death, equally.
Pride c…
Yes, actually in the book of the Pascha, it says:
Holy Pascha said:
"Woe to you Judas, for you have met a punishment without parallel and brought damnation upon yourself."
It is clear though from the Gospels that Judas was a very special case. He o…
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So then why is Judas in the lowest part of Hades? If sin is sin, then why did he go to the lowest part of hades?
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First of all, what is your source on that?
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If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin lead…
The 'Seven Deadly Sins' are not recognized by the Orthodox Church, perse. They are defined as "great offenses against God, or moral faults which, if habitual, could result in the spiritual death of the individual".
However, these result in the deat…
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jydeacon, all sins r equal? really? but isnt it considered for instance that murder is worse than lying? if they are equal, why is one worse than the other?
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We all agree on the point that all sin leads to death. But aren't certain sins worse that other's …
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What is the point of this topic? It basically sounds like your trying to make homosexuality a non-sinful act. Well guess what, our church will never classify homosex…