There are at least different version of Tarteeb Albayaa with each version containing slightly different responses. It was in use till early 20th century and was replaced by Khedmat Alshammas. The late Bishop Samuel of Al Kanater has collected all th…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13852.msg161692#msg161692 date=1354655877]
One needs to quantify and define what "fundamental differences" are. Christology is not one of those fundamental differences. Maybe historical accuracy is but I wouldn't co…
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[quote author=arsenios link=topic=13852.msg161590#msg161590 date=1354234973]
What I mean is this: Instead of seeing how much we (EO and OO) have in common, I would love to…
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[quote author=imikhail]
I understand all what you said above. However the site does not reflect that information. The site merely mentions Bishop Seraphim and other names. …
Would you elaborate please? It is, at least, talking about the communion and the Lord.
The melody has nothing to with distribution. I do not object to the words , just the music. The annual music follows ja fezmaraowt like Abana Allazy (Our Father w…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=13928.msg161544#msg161544 date=1354140857]
Imikhail,
I don't think any of us has the right to decide what is appropriate to say and what is not (once all hymns of the rite have been exhausted). This matter should …
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13932.msg161542#msg161542 date=1354140456]
Do you know where can I get a copy?
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Unfortunately, I have not found an electronic copy. I got my copy from Maktabat Maree Meena in Shubra, Egypt.
I do agree with ophadece. There are certain rites for each occasion and each part of the liturgy. The question is what to do once you have exhausted the rite.
Distribution is one event when the rite often gets exhausted, another is during other pa…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=13928.msg161527#msg161527 date=1354077546]
imikhail,
As I mentioned already (previously in this forum), I think there is more than enough in the rite (unless you are praying in a cathedral) to sustain the length o…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13932.msg161524#msg161524 date=1354075123]
The melody used in kiahk commence only in kiahk and is connected to kiahk and not the fas…
The melody used in kiahk commence only in kiahk and is connected to kiahk and not the fast. They revolve around the 4 gospels of kiahk. This is true with all the hymns of the Coptic Church.
For example, we do celebrate the feast of the cross during…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13928.msg161515#msg161515 date=1354064933]
The questions is what should the deacons pray once the rite has been done? I mean once we pray…
The questions is what should the deacons pray once the rite has been done? I mean once we pray all the distribution hymns of the occasion, i.e kiahk? Is it wrong to pray with the midnight madaye7? Should we just be silent?
I do not believe it is a…
[quote author=baladoos link=topic=13928.msg161445#msg161445 date=1353865830]
Thanks a lot for the replies, they're great. For additional confirmation, can someone please get in contact with Albair immediately & get him to post his opinion? We ne…
[quote author=JG link=topic=13928.msg161443#msg161443 date=1353861417]
I personally think that is it wrong, for two reasons. The first is that the rites of our Church are ordered and structured such that there should be no confusion or disturbance b…
Those who say it is wrong to pray the madaye7 during the distribution of the Eucharist need to answer why it is wrong.
I personally do not see anything wrong with it.
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Edit: Sorry, my comment had nothing to do with the OP, but with the fact that this thread was derailed by someone's ridiculous logismoi.
Back on topic: I would love to t…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13852.msg161407#msg161407 date=1353706150]
Again the fact that LSOCS does not have any backing by any OO hierarchy is doubtful and w…
[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13852.msg161405#msg161405 date=1353693308]
Yes LSOCS doesnt stand up at all to the courses of the SUS site which has its courses hosted over a long weekend.... (sarcasm)
Fr. Peter teaches true theology, giv…
[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13904.msg161401#msg161401 date=1353687617]
I didnt suggest it, you said God punishes sinners with an eternal death. But because sin was directed to the infinite Who punished him with an eternal death
Anyway…
[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13852.msg161397#msg161397 date=1353685917]
I want to respectfully say to Imikhail that Fr. Peter Farrington and the LSOCS has so much more knowledge and wisdom than you, its not even comparable. Fr. Peter Fa…
[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13904.msg161398#msg161398 date=1353686126]
Imikhail said eternal death, not me. I think Imikhail is wrong on numerous bases anyways.
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What are these mistakes in your understanding?
Regardless, I do …
It seems to me that this course is designed to facilitate the unison of the EO with the OO rather than explain the OO theology.
If this is true, I do not agree that this is the best medium to reach this objective. Any catechism or theological cours…
[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13904.msg161358#msg161358 date=1353554676]
So if God punished sin with an eternal death, how come this is seemingly contradicted by St. Basil the Great and St. Athanasius the Apostolic in the quotes i mentio…