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CopticApostate

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  • @studyandlearn Take it to the PMs. I'll respond to you as soon as I get the chance. At the other guy. Wow, I get under your skin much?
  • Apparently, you people don't know what a debate is. It's an "argument" from both sides. People may or may not derive some sort of benefit or "learn" from it but that's not always the case. Just because my points don't mirror your own you label it as…
  • I'm just going to clear a few things out since talking with you is almost as pointless as you perceive talking to me would be. 1. You personally hardly ever got into any rational debate with me. Many others did and I actually enjoyed talking to them…
  • Okay,  First, I did respond to the original question of the topic a few weeks ago if you scroll up a bit. My recent comments were directed at @mikeforjesus's statements. Secondly, how is telling someone to think for themselves any form of proselytis…
  • The church does not grant divorces but it sure as hell influences them and judges their (civil) divorcees, not on merit or the situation they were but based solely on the view that they opposed Christ. That makes all the difference. "The Church livi…
  • So let me rearrange your thoughts so far, and do correct me if I'm mistaken: 1. You said "real abuse" would have to be present in order to legitimise a divorce and that people should forgive 490 times. 2. When asked what you believe constitutes real…
  • You said it has to be "real abuse". What constitutes that and to what extent does it have to be tolerated in your view?
  • @mikeforjesus Do you really think the family of the abused would just stay quiet? If it was your brother or sister getting abused, would you still tell them to "forgive 70 x 7"? This is enabling behaviour.
  • You are pathetic.
  • I doubt it's a bot; if someone had the smarts to make/use a bot, you'd think they'd at least know a space follows a full stop. My theory is he is a regular Muslim Egyptian who wants to see how Copts react to different situations. He probably just wa…
  • Good grief, I thought this guy with multiple accounts was someone from this forum who just sought to stir some feathers over at our subreddit but I see you guys have it a bit more tough with him.
  • You guys are really going off topic in regards to the original post and focussing on my name. I'll make it simple; I was born a Coptic Orthodox Christian but now I have no religious beliefs, that's all there is to it. Feel free to call it what you w…
  • @AnthiohianGreek I was born into the Coptic Orthodox church but for many reasons I denounced my faith.
  • Well I'm from the other side of the fence here so I hope I don't come across as preaching my lack of beliefs as that is not my intention. Anyway, reflect upon all this. You say you can't relate or communicate properly with people at church. You said…
  • @Joshuaa Howdy, neighbour. I do not deny any good anyone does - church included - but I will not take any negatives lightly as well. Sorry, but I saw your post as a long way to say "we can be inclusive of people if they adopt the same perspective …
  • @minasoliman Hi back, think of this post and our subreddit whatever you like. Fact of the matter is, if it wasn't for that group and the people there, this post here would have never been made and I wouldn't look back on it. I'm not above mistakes,…
  • Thanks for all your comments. I did not go to any other church and the last time I've been to Egypt was when I was a child. I know how tough Copts have it there and I wish them nothing but the best, but that doesn't mean I have to share their belief…
  • My sister is getting a divorce (no adultery involved, just a petty argument that grew into something big which made the boy and his family abusive). She was in another country when married and came back home after the separation. She spoke to Pope T…
  • I am not. What brought this up?
  • Aussie here as well. Though I'm no longer religious, just thought I'd chime in.
  • @studyandlearn"No need to answer agression with agression" I disagree with this notion, sometimes you have to be able to stand up for yourself and that naturally involves a certain degree of aggression. I'm not advocating OP punches his cousin in th…
  • "Mitharadir said he is living with two cousins, probably one of them is the one who is agressive. This is maybe not the kind of influence you mean and no authorithy, but sure it matters a great deal if in fact he lives with that very cousin  " If t…
  • Again, I will ask; does your cousin have any influence in the church or any authority over you? If not, then just stand up for yourself and tell him to shut up. You don't owe any explanation or reasoning to anyone. 
  • Well @remnkemi are you seeing this? It wasn't my intention to spark up old debates when I decided to check out this forum again but this is an example of what might happen if it's made public that one left the Coptic church and why I'm so careful an…
  • "Copts and coptic church never do crusade.Crusade do only the catholic church.Copts in Egypt dont create problems.The good news are that i speak with this girl and she promise that dont do abortion." Do you really think that if our numbers and physi…
  • (Part 4) "By your application of moral code, extramarital sex is already demonic since it causes STDs" Look it the study linked above. It's not the extramarital sex that causes STD, it's the lack of proper precautions and protection. I'd assume a mo…
  • (Part 3) "A community must transfer its sovereignty to thegovernment – which contradicts your original claim “no one can have moralauthority over anyone else’s free will” But even if we assume that everyindividual in a community unknowingly or unwil…
  • (Part 2) "he will not consider his actionsbad behavior and he will be justified to commit what others will call badbehavior." Knowledge of what may be considered moral doesn't prevent anyone from doing bad behaviours, even knowing full well it's amo…
  • (Part 1) "I didn't say you have no morals because you're a non-believer... Again, I never said atheists are amoral..." Quoting you; "You have taken God off the table as a source of moral responsibility." You then go on saying that "moral responsibil…