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  • Hi Qawe, beloved of Christ... You said, "be careful what you wish for. Pushing for an English-based Orthodox Church ..can often instead lead to a Protestant-influenced church ..."   There are some Arabic spekaing Coptic Churches that are also protes…
  • Hi Zoxasi,   Peace and grace to you. You asked, "Why doesn't it bother you that half is also in Coptic or English? I mean to say: your kids (and yourself) do not speak or understand Coptic either - surely when Coptic is always present in our Church.…
  • What is the difference between the two terms "Physis" and "Ousia" ? We accept MiaPhysis but not Miaousia, therefore there mush be a difference.  What is it?  Do these two words mean the same thing to the Chalcedonians?  Did these two words mean di…
  • Please fill in the bank...The fact that He made His Humanity One with His Divinity without mingling, confusion or alterationmeans that there are still two distinct _________________ in Christ. a) Physiesb) Ousiaic) Substancesd) sets of propertiese) …
  • What is a composite nature?If the humanity is not mixed or confused with the divine nature while united to it, how is it composite.  The PERSON must be composite of Dvinity and Humanity, but if the Divinity and Humanity are not mixed or confused wit…
  • Miaphysis does not mean that two sets of properties united together to make one new set of properties that is both, does it?  This would be a third new "nature" or Physis, which is what some Chalcedonians would accuse us of, which would be tantamoun…
  • Since we already agree that the Incarnate Logos is one United Physis and not two Physies, in St. Cyril's way of speaking, then what is it UNDERLYING that, that remains TWO UNconfused, UNmixed, and UNaltered ? Since whatever (___________) is, rema…
  • Peace and grace to allPlease fill in the blank in the following sentence.  You can use any word in English or Greek. The fact that He made His Humanity One with His Divinity without mingling, confusion or alterationmeans that there are still two dis…
  • Can we say their are two unmixed substances in the Miaphysis of Christ the incarnate logos? 
  • HI  Remnkemi, You stated that you   "still have a problem with saying two essences."      and   "Yes it is true that that the two natures of Christ remain intact, but we can't say there are two essences in Christ."   What do you mean by "natures…
  • FROM A LETTER OF THE BLESSED DIOSCORUS THE ARCHBISHOP OF ALEXANDRIA, WRITTEN FROM EXILE IN GANGRA, TO THE MONKS OF THE HENNATON I am fully aware, having been educated in the Faith, respecting Him (Christ) that He was born of the Father, as God, and…
  • This is equivalent to what the Chalcedonians mean by "two natures"
  • Peace and grace to you Remnkemi, you stated that  "we do not believe in a composite essence. However, we do believe in the composite (miaphysis) nature of Christ. This is further evidence that ousia cannot be identical to physis." I fully agree with…
  • If we insist on saying "One from two" or "from two, One" why can we not drop the word "nature" and say from two essences One Hypostasis
  • If we use English terms and avoid the word "nature" we can say that there are two essences in the One Person of Christ, by which He is co-essential with us and coessential with the Father. He is of one Substamce with the Father and of One substance…
  • We do not believe in one composite essence.
  • Christ therefore has all the dynamic will and energy of humanity (one Ousia) and all the will and energy of Divinity (another Ousia)... umited in One Physis
  • Its been said that "in Orthdox theology there must be a consistency between Christology and Trinitarian theology. In any case one crucial aspect of this consistency is that will always goes with nature. Otherwise the Most holy Trinity is three gods,…
  • I do not find any common usge of Ousies except to refer the femenine in the Afrikans language.    Ousiai is the common plural of Ousia
  • We find the common usage of the plural of Ousia as with Ousiai, so I don't think they would laugh at hearing ousiai.
  • Is Fr. John Romides analisis of teh underatnding of physis equaling Ousia wrong?   He also in multiples places used the wourd "Ousiai" as plural for Ousia.   According to Wikipedia, Aristotle defined protai ousiai, or “primary substances..."  Using …
  • Remenkimi,   Fr. John Romanides writes "To speak about two natures in Christ would be somewhat equivalent to a Chalcedonian speaking about two Hypostases in Christ. In this respect 'a Chalcedonian would accept and does accept everything Cyril says…
  • Regarding the will of Christ, Christ has all the natural will and energy of humanity and all the natural will and energy of Divinity united in Him. In this sence He has two wills, united together. But we speak of One Will in Christ the Incarnate Log…
  • The Holy Trinity (Three Hypostasis) has One Divine Nature (Ousiai) Only.   In the Hypostasis of the  Christ the One Divine Nature (ousia) was united to the human nature (Ousia).
  • When we say One Nature from Two.  We really , really, desperately need to clarify when speakuing to the Chalcedonians what we mean and preferably avoid the word "nature" altogether.   We should cleary state that Christ is One Hypostasis and One Miap…
  • FROM A LETTER OF THE BLESSED DIOSCORUS THE ARCHBISHOP OF ALEXANDRIA, WRITTEN FROM EXILE IN GANGRA, TO THE MONKS OF THE HENNATON I am fully aware, having been educated in the Faith, respecting Him (Christ) that He was born of the Father, as God, and …
  • Christ does indeed have two distinct essences that continue to exist in Him without mixture, without alteration, without mingling together.  They Unitiy is in One Person, One Hypostasis, One Physis.   The two essences make His Physis a MiaPhysis.   …
  • Zoxsasi,   you said that," ... he was misunderstanding St Cyril who said that we should no longer talk about Christ as having two natures after the incarnation: given that the two natures were never separated - why should we separate them in our ter…
  • 1)  When reading the book the Nature of Christ, I read a statement to the effect that "both become one in essence and in nature, so we say that this is one nature and one person."   I am wondering if this is a mistranslation from the Arabic. Althoug…
  • We are often accused of confusing "nature" with "person" and are afraid to admit that the Person of the Logos took upon Himself a Human Nature and Made it One with His Person, not one and the same as His Divine Nature.  Is this accusation true? Whe…