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  • [quote author=billious link=topic=13508.msg157719#msg157719 date=1342404968] Not sure if this website helps. It has over 100 english songs produced by the coptic orthodox church www.orthodoxsongs.org God Bless [/quote] While this may be a useful…
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  • [quote author=JG link=topic=13496.msg157693#msg157693 date=1342370157] qawe and jonathan_, I don't know what your issue is, but as far as I can see, no one in this thread said that the Coptic church is superior to any other church. No one even impl…
  • [quote author=gbe link=topic=13496.msg157683#msg157683 date=1342338248] Fr peter  i apoligise from the bottom of my heart if this insulted you i didnt mean egyptians but i meant the egyptian church as i consider the muslims in egypt not worthy to be…
  • English in Word format: www.smcoc.ca/Baptism_bklt.docx
  • [quote author=coptic_deacon link=topic=13508.msg157682#msg157682 date=1342338187] We are already suffering an identity crisis, and it will get worse if we don't act soon. [/quote] Yeah we are, with many people talking about our Coptic faith. Our C…
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  • [quote author=coptic_deacon link=topic=13516.msg157681#msg157681 date=1342337568] clearly my post was in response to someone who mentioned historical significance. I resent the accusation that I have no respect for St. Athanasius, or Christ Himself …
  • There is a canon that anyone who trims his beard cannot receive Communion. The reason is that, at the time the canon was written, shaving the beard was a statement of homosexual behaviour. We have to be careful about applying canons with understandi…
  • [quote author=gbe link=topic=13496.msg157470#msg157470 date=1341807290] There is this issue that people think Egyptian Christians are no different just very strict in their religion but Egypt is mentioned in The book of Isiah [/quote] The land if E…
  • [quote author=Fr. Kyrillos link=topic=13516.msg157660#msg157660 date=1342291283] I won't comment on the historical development of clerical garb...but in terms of my own personal experience of being a priest just over five years now I can say that I …
  • These are all people who have totally different ideas about christianity than we do. They have all persecuted us at some point. Please point me to a resource on the persecution of Egyptian Christians by the British, the Germans, and any West Eur…
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  • [quote author=coptic_deacon link=topic=13508.msg157640#msg157640 date=1342251996] [quote author=qawe link=topic=13508.msg157556#msg157556 date=1342007489] This thread is for those who (1) agree that Protestant songs are not ideal (at least; a strong…
    in . Comment by jonathan_ July 2012
  • [quote author=coptic_deacon link=topic=13516.msg157639#msg157639 date=1342250951] actually wearing black is in an indirect way essential to orthodoxy. to quote HH Pope Shenouda, wearing black is a sign of class, respect and honour. [/quote] So St. …
  • Priests never used to dress the way they do today. Around the 6th century or so, priests in Rome began to dress differently than laity because they maintained the clothes of Roman civil servants that were passing away, while everyone else just kept …
  • [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13480.msg157611#msg157611 date=1342132322] The EO have rejected communion with the Oriental as a result of the debates that went during the 90's. We signed the agreement, but when the Ecumenical Patriarch took it to…
  • [quote author=metouro link=topic=13480.msg157603#msg157603 date=1342098017] I ask why the owners of this orthodox information cite are allowed to publically publish such opinions without the review of their clergy, particularly their bishops and pat…
  • [quote author=metouro link=topic=13480.msg157601#msg157601 date=1342097128] The following opinion was found on orthodoxinfo.com: The Copts are Monophysites and thus heretics. Their Mysteries are invalid and, should they join the Orthodox Church, th…
  • [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13480.msg157585#msg157585 date=1342062692] How can we accept their sacraments and say we are not in communion? [/quote] That would be the definition of schism. By definition to be in communion is to accept the ot…
  • Since I don't speak Arabic, I don't think I'll be able to find the actual text of the agreement. This is not a reliable source of course, but: http://orthodoxwiki.org/Pastoral_Agreement_between_the_Coptic_Orthodox_and_Greek_Orthodox_Patriarchates_o…
  • [quote author=imikhail link=topic=13480.msg157574#msg157574 date=1342049293] We are not in communion with te EO. The still considers heretics which means we do not have the same faith. The monks of Mount Athos, who control any lift of the anathema…
  • [quote author=aidan link=topic=13480.msg157558#msg157558 date=1342011729] I'm trying to keep this brief if I may for my own clarification. Part of the self identification of the EO church is that it is the Church of the Seven Councils. The OO churc…
  • If you look at the source page at the back of this book: http://www.stmaryscopticorthodox.ca/index.php/english/publications/sermon/coptic-hymnal , there are many taken from western sources. I wouldn't trust something just because the RC's use it...…
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  • [quote author=irishpilgrim link=topic=13480.msg157554#msg157554 date=1342006207] jonathan: Have you read any Catholic related headlines in the secular press in the past 10, or 50, years? Is this gross general public Catholic immorality the fruit of…
  • [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13503.msg157525#msg157525 date=1341952283] [quote author=jonathan_ link=topic=13503.msg157523#msg157523 date=1341948076] [quote author=Khas. link=topic=13503.msg157520#msg157520 date=1341944700] Thanks [/quote] A…
  • [quote author=Khas. link=topic=13503.msg157520#msg157520 date=1341944700] Thanks [/quote] A small amount of the Body is dipped in the Blood, then placed in a small box designed for this purpose (which is consecrated, and cannot be touched by anyone …
  • [quote author=baempi link=topic=13480.msg157489#msg157489 date=1341862791] I can tell you for a fact that there were Copts, attending a Greek Orthodox Church because there wasnt a Coptic church nearby. The diocese bishop was shocked, forbade it, and…
  • I like joomla and the preach-it plug-in from truth engaged. I use it to organize the sermons on our website: www.smcoc.ca . They have a melodies plug-in at the same place meant for hymns instead of sermons. There are plenty of other plug-ins for org…
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  • No one has yet provided any proof that there is a rule in the Coptic Orthodox Church that EO are received by Baptism. The argument merely seems to be that we are not in Communion, therefore we cannot receive sacraments in their Church, therefore so…
  • [quote author=ophadece link=topic=13480.msg157459#msg157459 date=1341782279] DEar all, I would like to ask people to refer to current practices, rather than their own understandings or experiences as saifaing pointed out.. there are rules set out as…
  • [quote author=sifaing link=topic=13480.msg157442#msg157442 date=1341714854] Jonathan, By your logic, we don't need to baptize catholics because, after all, they were baptized by priests. And when it comes to communion and confession and chrismatio…
  • [quote author=sifaing link=topic=13480.msg157439#msg157439 date=1341711701] Hello all, Peace and Grace My understanding is that most of the Eastern Orthodox churches have not signed the agreement yet, including the Russians.  Therefore, we are not …