in order not to derail the thread on saint basil's liturgy,
i am commenting further here.
jeremy's source in that thread further states: :((
'Thus the choir of deacons, trained in singing, replaced the congregation.'
that's not how my first orthodox churches (where i joined the church) functioned! everyone sang!
but i have seen this tendency in some of the larger churches.
how we can counteract this? it really makes me sad to see people are too shy to sing, or who think they need some special talent to invitation to sing to God in church.
i would like to hear the advice of anyone - those who sing and those who don't sing.
how can we (people who like to sing) help you to join in?