New US Dioceses -- Except NJ

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  • That makes sense.  The same logic can be for Abouna Seraphim as well.  Serving the Coptic Churches in those three states gave both the people and the Pope confidence to make him an official diocesan bishop.
  • there will be a coptic church in romania? pls tell me more...
    sorry if i derail yr thread, feel free to move my 'non usa' comments to a separate section.
    can't help smiling at anba angaelos though, glad he will be in uk long term.
  • :) congrats for both the UK and Romania

    (3obalna)
  • @mabsoota I actually donno anything about that...I just translated it from the Arabic.
  • Ok so just to be caught up:

    BEFORE THIS MESS, who would of been/was bishop or met of the DMV area (Deleware to Virginia)?
    Who is Anba Michael? I wasn't alive when he was in the area so I'm very confused.

    AFTER THE ORDINATIONS AND ENTHRONEMENTS, will anything change for Virginia since H.H. has seemingly decided to leave us out of the mix?

    Does the reason we're being avoided by everyone have anything to do with Abn. Bishoy Andrawes and his drama?

    Also, Anba Karas being bishop of everywhere EXCEPT Virginia seems like trying to give the Fairfax parish a semi-autonomy over what happens with at least 5 other churches in the area. Which is a very very bad idea. The Springfield parish is borderline corrupt. It's also weird since he's visited the area multiple times in the past year and it seemed like he was getting to know the knew churches' priests well.

  • Hi @Daniel_Kyrillos...don't be too hard on yourself...we will all survive as long as we are with God :-)

    Let me put it this way, anyone who is not in the following dioceses is under the Pope directly, making up the Archdiocese of North America (including Canada) and therefore served by Anba Karas: LA, SUS, NYNE, SC/NC/KY, Mississauga Canada. Anba Michael is a bishop ordained in 2009. His jurisdiction is what some are now fighting about...and you can see earlier posts or even the facebook posts for more details on that.

    If you are from VA, you probably seen Anba Karas because he is (until the ordination) serving the church that are "not with" Anba Michael...including Fairfax. HG used to do regular meetings for the priests in the area. He was getting to know everyone because it was his job...know the people to serve them. But we did always know that he will be enthroned, we were just not sure where till around a month or so ago.  

    I think fairfax, despite "Abouna Beshoy Drama" is not in a bad state compared to other churches around that are "with" Anba Michael. Also, this whole issue with Atif Aziz is prob affecting everyone in the area. 

    After the ordination, the following will happen (if nothing from what's announced changes):
    1-Anba Karras will be enthroned on PA, DE, ML, WV 
    2-Fr. Seraphim El-soryani will be ordained and enthroned on MI, OH, IN
    3-The Archdiocese will not include the 7 states in 1 and 2, and we will get Anba Angelos, the General Bishop of Shobra instead of Anba Karas
  • edited November 12

    Like Mina, I am happy to hear that H.G. Anba Angaelos will be our bishop in the Archdiocese.  That said, I am disappointed that most of the areas that practice heteropraxis - that is, CCM in the Liturgy after Psalm 150, etc. - remain without a bishop.  The fact that there is no real episcopal oversight in the areas where these things occur is problematic.

  • since we are on the subject of dioceses, why did H.H. Pope Shenouda make only Southern California a diocese and not all of Cali? And where is the dividing line for HE Metropolitan Serapion’s diocese?
  • So I played around with LA diocese website. It seems the 37th parallel line applies to that diocese as much as it does to the SUS diocese

    Just for fun:
    https://ibb.co/jqw6dG
  • The LA diocese stretches as far north as Visalia, but recently was expanded to include Fresno. If we applied this expansion consistently, it would also include some of the churches just south of the San Francisco Bay Area that are presently under Patriarchal jurisdiction. But this expansion took place as HH requested that HE administer the Fresno church to solve some problems there, and HE said he doesn't administer churches that aren't part of his diocese.
  • edited November 13
    Lol...in other words, I ain’t touching Fresno until you make it officially my diocese.

    So in other words, anything below San Francisco. Sheesh! Just make all of Cali for His Eminence. There’s no real logic in these ecclesiastical divisions.
  • When is Anba Angelos of Shubra coming to NJ? Is he here yet?
  • He should be coming next Sunday with Anba Karas.
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