I said I would resign as teacher but not as seeker
Many have faith in Jesus and that is not narrow and difficult but to comprehend the bible and Romans to have true trust in Jesus for salvation maybe that is what is narrow and that would produce works but needs not to if there is no time. When Jesus said the way is difficult did He really mean it is very difficult or comparitively so ? But what about those who work very hard in another way do we have to make atleast more effort than them ? Or just not imitate their weak efforts in trying to obey God's calling ? But for some they have to make great effort to follow Christ and we have to do the same in our own way but does that mean salvation is very difficult or only difficult comparing to those similar to us who make little effort to be approved of Christ ?
Interesting after saying in my thread titled communion and Protestants that Jesus said the sons of the kingdom would be cast out and many shall come from the east west north and south and sit with Abraham after saying that I came across this as I was inspired by Cyc which quotes Genesis where it is said Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness it reminded me of Romans and I searched it up could God be trying to help me see that many Christians outside the church would be saved by faith if they never have the option anymore to be baptised as it is written let everything that has breath praise the Lord ? Paul mentions circumcision as the seal of faith and elsewhere says our new circumcision is baptism that is we need to desire to be baptised and do so if we have a chance on our death bed or if we even reject that in our final moments before God when they can no longer be baptised we have to desire that but I suppose God only knows if that is acceptable and we have truly desired it with all our heart.
Anyway I want to discuss is Romans 4 teaching we can be saved by faith alone if it is a true change of heart that would produce works. Or if one comes to trust in Christ blood alone through Romans truly would he automatically be able to produce works ? And this faith and change of heart justifies however late even if there are no works because of chance ? If one has faith and he will not die according to Romans 4:4 is his works just to reward him or if he does not work when he was called in the 1st hour by having true faith knowing Christ justifies those of the 12 hour then if he does not work perhaps salvation will be harder because Jesus said he will come when he is not looking for him
Though everyone who has breath can be saved Christ can come when one is lazy so one should always be alert
Those saved near the end have truly felt sorry for their sin. Elsewhere the bible says God will bring every thing into judgement again is that for rewards or you have to remember and feel sorry of all sins and be purified of them through trusting in Jesus and equipped by His Spirit for good works if one had the chance
This also seems to mean those who think not to be baptised Jesus may come when they are lazy
Romans elsewhere says the gift of grace will abound to many to life making it not seem hard to be saved and pope Shenouda said God can give us a new heart to never desire to return to sin
I am going to read the church fathers but I am not he able to comprehend them
Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt
1 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh?[a] 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[b] 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,And whose sins are covered;8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin.”[c] 9 Does this blessedness then come upon the circumcised only, or upon the uncircumcised also? For we say that faith was accounted to Abraham for righteousness. 10 How then was it accounted? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised. 11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also, 12 and the father of circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of the faith which our father Abraham had while still uncircumcised.13 For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect, 15 because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”[d]) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did; 18 who, contrary to hope, in hope believed, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was spoken, “So shall your descendants be.”[e] 19 And not being weak in faith, he did not consider his own body, already dead (since he was about a hundred years old), and the deadness of Sarah’s womb. 20 He did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to perform. 22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[f]23 Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him, 24 but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.