do we all carrie or parents sins

edited December 1969 in Faith Issues
guys help me out a little. I under stand that we are all born sinners because of Adam and Eve and then we get pabtised to be cleaned. does that mean that when my mom did I sin I should Carrie it or when my dad did a sin I Carrie it, I mean why do we Carrie their sins. help me out to understand more please. thanks guys. ??? :(

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  • we do not carry our parents sin, so you have no reason to worry mickeyy231! I highly recommend you read the Ezekiel 18 which very clearly and direcly answers this question.

    And a very common misconception that we have is that we inherited Adam's sin, and therefore we are born sinners. This is actually NOT the Coptic Orthodox belief, but rather we believe: (quoted from the Southern Diocese Servant Preparation course packet "Orignal Sin and Atonement")

    "What we inherit or what is transmitted to us is Adam's fallen human nature and not his actual sin. Moreover, we have our own sins to contend with because all of us have sinned and deserve punishment."

    I hope this clarifies.
  • i know that we dont carry our parents sins but i am saying since we dont carry their sins WHY do we carry adam and Eve sins. you know what i mean
  • Hello mickey231

    This is a Q & A by H.H. Pope Shenouda III
    The title : Iniquity of the fathers on the children

    THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS ON THE CHILDREN
    by HH Pope Shenouda


    Question:
    Could the iniquity of the fathers visit the children as the Bible says
    in (Ex. 20:5) and as we say "The fathers ate sour grapes and the
    children's teeth are set on edge"?

    Answer:
    The fathers can hand down to their children physically
    the result of their sins or sicknesses. The parent could sin and as a
    result of his or her sin they may have contract a sickness and then the
    son or the daughter could inherit that sickness. The children could be
    stricken by mental or neurological diseases, some blood disorders or
    congenital defects as a result of what was inherited from their
    parents. Often the sickness of the children and their suffering are a
    cause of pain for the parents especially if they knew that the sickness
    was a result of their sins.


    The children might inherit ill-nature or bad character
    from their parents.

    But this is not a rule; king Saul was cruel, merciless and of bad
    character. His son Jonathan was the opposite. Jonathan was a friend of
    David. He loved him and was faithful to him. Even if the children
    inherit ill-nature from their parents, they can with ease get rid of it
    if they wish.

    A son can inherit poverty or debts because of his father's mistakes...

    He suffers because of it, of course on earth, and that would have
    nothing to do with his eternal life. Many are the end results that the
    saying of the poet agrees with "This is what my father inflicted upon
    me, and I did not inflict on anyone."
    As for judging the children for the sins that were committed personally
    by their parents, the Bible has refuted completely as written in he
    Book of Ezekiel "what do you mean when you use this proverb... the
    fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on
    edge? 'As I live' says the Lord God, you shall no longer use this
    proverb the soul who
    sins shall die... "
    The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the
    father bear the guilt of the son:

    "The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the
    wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. (Ezek. 18:1-20).
    The righteous Jonathan did not bear the evil of his father king Saul
    nor Josiah the righteous king the sin of Aaron his father or Manasseh
    his grandfather or the rest of his forefathers.

    The curses of the law in the Old Testament was abolished in the New
    Testament. As we say in the Anaphora of St. Gregory:
    "You have lifted the curse of the Law"

    As an example of this curse, Canaan, did bear the curse of his father
    Ham, (Gen. 9:22-25) and his sons also bore it till the days of the Lord
    Christ and not only till the fourth generation. Now, we are in the era
    of "grace and truth" (John 1:17) so do not be afraid of the curse of
    the Law which was inherited by the children from their grandfathers.
    Often the father could be evil but the son is righteous refusing to
    walk in his father's footsteps, and even he might resist him as the
    Lord says, "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of
    Me." (Matt. 10:37).

    Naturally it would be unjust for God to visit the sins
    of this evil father on his righteous son who deserves to be rewarded.




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  • thank you Safaa. Thats exactly the passage from Ezekiel 18 which answers the question of how we do not carry our parents sin.

    To answer your question, we DO NOT CARRY Adam and Eve's original sin. We DID NOT INHERIT their sin. We only inherited Adam's CORRUPT NATURE, leaving us more vulnerable to sin.
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