Nefsenti vs. Ni Savev Teero

kyrollos faheem

Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows whether to chant Nefsenti or Ni Savev Teero in the presence of the patriarch, metropolitan, or bishop. or chant Ni Savev Teero first then Nefsenti?

Cyril97

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minatasgeel

[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=10943.msg132498#msg132498 date=1299625467]
Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows whether to chant Nefsenti or Ni Savev Teero in the presence of the patriarch, metropolitan, or bishop. or chant Ni Savev Teero first then Nefsenti?

nefsenti, metanias, kerielesion, nisaviv

kyrollos faheem

[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=10943.msg132509#msg132509 date=1299627834]
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=10943.msg132498#msg132498 date=1299625467]
Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows whether to chant Nefsenti or Ni Savev Teero in the presence of the patriarch, metropolitan, or bishop. or chant Ni Savev Teero first then Nefsenti?

nefsenti, metanias, kerielesion, nisaviv


Which kerielesion?

copticuser20

[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=10943.msg132509#msg132509 date=1299627834]
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=10943.msg132498#msg132498 date=1299625467]
Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows whether to chant Nefsenti or Ni Savev Teero in the presence of the patriarch, metropolitan, or bishop. or chant Ni Savev Teero first then Nefsenti?

nefsenti, metanias, kerielesion, nisaviv

by the time kerielesion is over, won't the bishop just cut you off and start the absolution? i know a lot of bishops who try to avoid bishop hymns and this is a perfect opportunity  :D

minatasgeel

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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=10943.msg132509#msg132509 date=1299627834]
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=10943.msg132498#msg132498 date=1299625467]
Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows whether to chant Nefsenti or Ni Savev Teero in the presence of the patriarch, metropolitan, or bishop. or chant Ni Savev Teero first then Nefsenti?

nefsenti, metanias, kerielesion, nisaviv


Which kerielesion?

el-karaben....but i guess you can cut it short and get into ni-saviv .

PaulSamir

heres a video of a lent liturgy with a patriarch/bishop

the order ur looking for starts at 7:30

ilovesaintmark

Technically:  the bishop is supposed to be completing his vesting during the chanting of nisavev, i.e, mitre, zeno, cape, epatrachilion.  Nisavev is the chanted Psalm of investiture.

mmatt95

Has anyone ever heard of a good explanation regarding the reason of chanting nefsenti before the absolution? It's always been some kind of a mystery to me of what its relevance is during the weekdays of Lent...

deacon p

[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=10943.msg132498#msg132498 date=1299625467]
Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone knows whether to chant Nefsenti or Ni Savev Teero in the presence of the patriarch, metropolitan, or bishop. or chant Ni Savev Teero first then Nefsenti?

Nefsenti first then kerieleison of the litany of the oblation. sidna will probably cut u and after the absolution, start ni savev from "em-peniot"