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Nayrouz songs/ hymns

Maryilftpd — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:17:02 +0000

Hey, Ekhristos Anesty
Sorry for troubling you all once again.
I am looking for 4/5 Nayrouz songs/ hymns for young ones.

Before this I searched the forum and found "Sons of Martys" lyrics but not the audio. Any directions would be appreciated.
Here are the opening lyrics:
"We are the sons of martyrs, we are so full of faith;
Our church is victorious, it's the church of the brave.
In Jerusalem martyrs, faithful to our Lord;
He Who died for us, we shed for Him our blood..."

I have Brighten Up of course on my mind so I need about 3 more.

I remember one in Arabic:
"Om el shohoda ya kinisty
Ya fakhr lekol al agyal..."
But I have forgotten how the tune goes and I can't find it anywhere. Any help/ ideas regarding this would be great.

Its most likely been discussed to death, but nevertheless...

joeg — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:40:13 +0000

Hello guys, I haven't posted around here for a a long time so you'll forgive what might be seen as a random intrusion.

I'd be astonished if this issue hasn't been discussed before, but I would really appreciate people's input so as to allow myself to make an informed decision:

Sources of Coptic Hymns.

From what I've read and looked at (I'm am not a Mo'allem or an expert), it is almost universally agreed that Mo'allem Mikhail El- Batanouny the Great is the most reliable source; after all, he collected what was left of our hymns under the instruction of Pope Cyril V.

So, logically, it would make the most sense to go straight to the source and learn the hymns there. That should provide the most reliable rendition of the hymn.

And, I have found the collection by the Mo'allem here: http://www.coptichymns.net/modules.php?name=Coptic_Media&op=modload&file=index&p=Coptic Hymns/Cantor Mikhail Girgis El Batanouny Collection/Tape_01

Now, prior to this, I have learnt my hymns from different sources, mainly: HICS, Mo'allem Farag Abdelmessih, Mo'allem Wagdi Bishara.

And many hymns simply from my youth - from growing up in a church and listening to deacons. Hymns that are known commonly to many people e.g. Agios O Theos, Thok Te Ti Gom - for such hymns I have never heard recordings from certain cantors; I simply heard them being said since my youth in the church - I cannot account for the sources of the deacons, but I imagine to a certain extent that the fact that most of these commonly said hymns are said "universally" by all in virtually the same way I will not have to return to the source of Mo'allem Mikhail to relearn.

I have heard many criticisms of HICS and HCOC by various people. The main criticism of the former seems to have regarded the recording of the Liturgy of St. Cyril (the view that the "completed" version which was recorded by Fr. Mettias Nasr [with the tarkeeb or building upon of the tunes taken from the Gregorian Liturgy] should not have been done vs. the view that the completed version is much better than the alternative of simply having unusable fragments). The criticisms I've heard about HCOC are that they are simply re-recording what Mo'allem Mikhail recorded, albeit in a form that is "easier" to learn from.

I do not wish to spark arguments, though. The real crux of the issue with me is this: there will always be fluctuations of differences in Mo'allems taught from the same source. I mean, they will never, ever be 100% identical to the Mo'allem they received the hymn from. Don't get me wrong on this point - you can definitely identify a certain melisma or hazza and know that they were thus passed on from a certain Mo'allem, but we are human beings and not machines. The main elements of a hazza might be present, but slight differences can and will occur, and I imagine these differences will become more and more defined and greater as the number of times the hymn has been passed on increases. Each cantor will make slight changes, unintentionally of course, or may forget, mis-teach etc. And that is why I am incredibly happy that we are all agreed and have Mo'allem Mikhail's recordings as a benchmark. I love the Churches hymns, and I want to preserve them as much as I can. The fact that the we can always refer to the Mo'allem Mikhail's recordings is for me a relief that when learning hymns we can always (as much as possible) learn them without the differences caused by the passage of time.

Having written this, I realise that I don't really have a question as such. I've talked myself into a circle of sorts ;D. My conclusion on the matter is that I'll try as many hymns as I can from the recordings of Mo'allem Mikhail.

What are your opinions on the matter? :)

pray for me

joe

Doxology for the Resurrection

Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:39:04 +0000

aghaby everyone , :)
Happy Easter & i hope everyone is having a blessed one ! 8)
I am looking for the audio of the Resurrection doxology which starts with "tote Ron.." I would prefer an audio by HICS (HIgher INstitute of Coptic Studies ) but if not then it is perfectly fine ! :-X
I looked under the hymns for the Ressurection feast here on tasbeha but i could not find it. Anyone have it ?
Thank you very much , i appreciate it ;D

+Mahraeel , your sister in Christ+

Anok Pe

PaulSamir — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:08:31 +0000

if anyone has the audio of this hymn that ibrahim ayad made, please post a link to download it. its called anok pe and he made it just a little while ago

Anok ba bekouja

ophadece — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:04:52 +0000

Dear all,
Would like to ask for some credible opinion on that. Now we have several recordings here on tasbeha.org, and they are all more or less conflicting in some melismata. The more confusing thing is that there are two under HICS, and they do not go in the same tune. Please I would like to know why exactly that is, and if anybody can shed some light into the history of those recordings.
[coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]

Pentecost Apekhrestos - Tasbeha

Zoxsasi — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:27:01 +0000

Hi,

Do you guys know the long joyful tune of Apekhrestos that is sung in the tasbeha? The tune has been bugging me for ages, and I forgot the words.

I'd like it if you can supply me with the MP3 or the lyrics

Thanks

Tommorows prayer readings?

christianlover — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:31:55 +0000

Tommorow there's church during 7-6 and i was wondering what book i can use to follow up with them?

Thanks in advance.

Ressurection songs

ebnyasoo3 — Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:17:58 +0000

Peace of Jesus Christ

My friends and I from the church decided to go to a nursing home for easterm to spend some time there and we would like to sing some songs

Does anyone know resurrection songs
Glory be to God
Thanks God bless

Bright Saturday Rites

Zoxsasi — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:53:11 +0000

Hi everyone,

Well its that time of the year that all the tasbeha gurus love to get together and enjoy, what is probably considered as the most wonderful and splendid portfolio of hymnology and praise the CoC has to offer, all in one day.

Is there a chance someone could send/post the rites for this day?

What is sung/when and how?

I know Im asking for a lot, I understand that, but I will be thankful for anything you can provide.

Thank you

TENO-OSHT

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Penecost Psalmody

Marmoura99 — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:48:58 +0000

Hi everyone,

Happy Palm Sunday! Just to look ahead a little here, does anyone know where I could get the psalmody for pentecost? I need it in arabic and english if available.

Thank you so much. God Bless!

Aspasmos Watos and Adam

davidawad94 — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:42:10 +0000

Why are the Aspasmos Watos and the Aspasmos Adam named with Adam and Watos if we say them any day whether it is Adam or Watos?

Prophecy Intro

Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:13:04 +0000

hey everyone i was wondering for pascha does anyone know the names of the prophets in coptic

thank you pray 4 me
copticdeacon

Vocab

abanoub2000 — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:34:11 +0000

Aspasmos
Psali
Adam
Watos

Any one wanna explain what each word is and what they mean when we combine them?

GB,

Abanoub

great lent

kirollos3 — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:27:08 +0000

i was looking for the commemoration of the saints in the tasbeha during the great lent, it is said differently from the normal days .
it could be in Coptic, English or Arabic

thank you.

Jeremiah Lamentations

John_S2000 — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:45:11 +0000

Jeremiah Lamentations by Fr Moussa Roushdy
http://www.4shared.com/file/97972597/fd590e82/___.html

btw I do not know him: friends told me they think his voice has a spiritual feel

GBU

Gospel Response Palm Sunday

gergesezzat — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:26:59 +0000

I was reviewing my palm Sunday hymns and I found cantor Ibrahim Ayad recorded the Gospel Responses for Liturgy in Coptic and Arabic. Does any one have the lyrics for them?

Coptic Acts- Feast of the Ressurection

davidawad94 — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:46:42 +0000

Does anyone have the coptic lyrics for the Acts sung on the Feast of the Resurrection? I just need the middle part (starts with niroumi, ends with efnotee). Thanks!

Tasbeha

Neniotee Ethoab — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:53:41 +0000

My Church does tasbeha on fridays. Since tonight is the Feast of the Cross, will the tasbeha be annual (1-4 hoos without psalis in the middle) plus palm sunday tune for commemoration (can't spell the tune's name without messing it up) or does it go back to lenten like the past 6 weeks?

Also, will next week's tasbeha (eve of Lazurus Saturday, night of Khitam il soom) be lenten, annual or someother kind?

If you answer the question, please state which tasbeha you are talking about. Thanks :) ;D :)

Covenant Thursday & Good Friday

PaulSamir — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:23:58 +0000

Covenant thursday
The file '04-16-09.mp3' (346.0 MB) is available for download at
<http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20100321/2d896a428440190f/04-16-09.mp3>;
for the next 7 days.
It will be removed after Sunday, March 21, 2010.

good friday
The file 'GoodFriday04-17-09.mp3' (533.0 MB) is available for download at
<http://dropbox.unl.edu/uploads/20100321/57326fbbd5f256b1/GoodFriday04-17-09.mp3>;
for the next 7 days.
It will be removed after Sunday, March 21, 2010.

HAzaat

tenoosht — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:55 +0000

Those hazaat pages made by HICS that they used to have on coptichymns.net. I know people have been looking for them (i think). And I've had them on my comp. So i had them upload it to my church's website to be readily available to those who need them.

http://downloads.strebekahorlando.org/HymnsMaps/

Theres the link. Enjoy.

The Feast of the Cross

LifeinChrist — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:49:12 +0000

What are the rites for the feast of the cross tomorrow, such as the tune and procession and such.

Golgotha by Monica George + David Ensemble

John_S2000 — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:05:30 +0000

Golgotha by Monica George + David Ensemble
http://www.mediafire.com/?cdxnyzzydnu

GBU

Monks Tasbeha

geomike — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:15:13 +0000

Does anyone have a website or audio or video file of monks doing tasbeha

Thanks in advance
GOD BLESS

Zay el 3asfour...Just like a Bird

Marmoura99 — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:05:57 +0000

Hi,
I wrote a poem (which you can read in my other post that I put up today) and I think it would go well with the music to Zay el 3asfour (Just Like a Bird). Does anyone know where I can get the instrumental? I've been looking for it all day!

thanks and God Bless.

pi mayromi

alhan_lover123 — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:25:11 +0000

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a recording of Pi mayromi in arabic?

God Bless everyone and Pray for me!

Bushra Lana Lyrics

Maryilftpd — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:02:53 +0000

Hey,

I am looking for the lyrics of Bushra Lana, its an Arabic Hymn sung after the resurrection of Christ, any help would be great.

The Arabic used is not the modernly used Arabic, its quite different, making it quite impossible to find. But everything is possible through Christ!

I remember this particular verse, its not 100%...

Bushra Lana, Bushra Lana, Kam al Massihu Ilahuna
Fal nahtifan wa nanshidan, wa nafrahan be kolobena

Perhaps you might know it?

Pope Shenouda's poems

Marmoura99 — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:15:00 +0000

Hello,

I'm currently looking for the collection of Pope Shenouda's poems that were made into taraneem, specifically the following:

I think it's called: ya elahi a3mak el 7ob hawak ( يا الهي اعمك الحب هواك)

It's absolutely beautiful: but I'm looking for the tarneema version of it!

If you have this one or any others, please let me know because I love Pope Shenouda's poetry.

thanks

Psacha Psalms

abanoub2000 — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:32:06 +0000

So i know Ke-Perto but i have never actually done a pashcha psalms.. is there a trick to doing it? and tips?

text: holly pascha book

romanticbiro — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:01:32 +0000

hello my friends:
please i need yourgreat help,
can i find holly pascha book Arabic and CS-Coptic or any font as text file? word.. html..?
please we need it important
any one who can help us?
also if possible i need to know all coptic appreviation or contractions word? and numbers? its better if it written via CS font.
thanks very much.
god bless all eforts in his name.
CopticBlind