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Please pray for stability in Egypt. A lot of muslims are using this as an excuse to kill Copts.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10632/muslim-brotherhood-ties-with-violence-against-optic-churches-egypt Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:55:21 +0000 Questioner 10632@/community/discussions ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10627/help-2day-and-2morrow-fasting Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:47:42 +0000 marmar357 10627@/community/discussions
hehe,hope the title didnt give u a bad impression, it's not that i dont wanna fast XD
but i, and many others got a text message that we will fasting today and tomorrow (friday is always fasting anyway),
but I called my priest to ask him if it's a decision from church and he said he didn't know about it, however he also got a message. He didn't told me clear if we must fast or not, (i only heard him say, i guess: " sibha" (let it go)). But
what I think and my dad also told me, that we shouldn't do anything, whether it's good or not, if it's not led by the church. It's like: we do whatever we want, with or without abouna.
Dunno, don't say that fasting is bad, no, it's good. So i put it on facebook and I get contrary reactions.

What do u think?

(some people say that anba angelos came with it)

gb]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10579/i-am-officially-fulfilling-my-vow Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:58:17 +0000 [Deleted User] 10579@/community/discussions
The people are everywhere killing and destructing just to get the president to resign. They are at the street of where my cousins, aunts, uncle, and Grandma lives. They are at the edge of getting killed, the people want to go to the building and destruct everything.

I can't do this by myself, if you are willing to fast and pray with me, Maybe things will change, by God's will. Please pray, I want to help. I want peace. I am going to do everything that I can to help, even though I might be 14 and just a person with hopes, but I have faith in the lord. I know things can change, I just hope that my family will be okay and everyone in Egypt.

I can't resist the thought of everyone getting hurt. I can't resist the thought of this insecure world we live in.

I am waiting for Jesus, my lord to come, and take me with him if I am worthy enough. I know most of you here are adults and have jobs and studies and family to take care of, but it will not hurt to just say a simple prayer. Please.


Thank you. Please also pray for me, the biggest sinner. May God have mercy on us and come soon to take the righteous with him to heaven.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10593/new-martyrs Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:17:02 +0000 Viv 10593@/community/discussions
-a muslim family in sharona, El Menya attacked 2 christian families. 8 new martyrs including 15 year old christine, and 8 year old fady.

-Coptic Egyptian youth congrating at the churches protecting them

-Copts from Alexandria are being sent death threats because of their participation in the el kedeseen protests.

-a monastery (abu saifain) has also been attacked.

-also a prison has seen a mass breakout, apparently the same one El Kamouny was being held in. figures. ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10594/justin-martyr Mon, 31 Jan 2011 00:41:08 +0000 JustinWilliams 10594@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10587/gold-sleeves Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:50:48 +0000 copticuser20 10587@/community/discussions http://elmaqar.org/cg/?q=node/229

The only gold i have seen a bishop wearing is the sedraya and the hat and the bornos. I never saw a bishop wearing these sleeves.

what are they called?
when/why do you wear it?
who wears it?
why don't most clergy wear it?

thanks!]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10571/write-down-your-experiences Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:41:33 +0000 Ioannes 10571@/community/discussions                 With the recent discussions about protestantism infiltrating our church I decided to get as many people as I could to write their experiences down and send them to me. I would like to try and keep track of these as much as I can so that I have eyewitness evidence to further prove my point. If anyone is willing to do this then send them to Tewahdo@gmail.com you do not have to put your full name but I would appreciate something so we know its legitimate. Also include which church this occured.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10583/what-are-we-supposed-to-sing Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:51:29 +0000 ebnyasoo3 10583@/community/discussions
What are we supposed to sing during communion after psalm 150 in the annual Sundays?

Please be specific.
I have asked many servants in the church and all they told me is that we are supposed to sing the annual melodies which I don't know.
Can you please provide me some of the hymns besides: night of the last supper, our savior called upon us. Because we sing these two almost every Sunday.

God bless.
Ebnyasoo3
]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10539/westernised-images-in-the-church Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:37:39 +0000 peterfarrington 10539@/community/discussions
With such an ancient iconographic tradition it is rather disturbing to a convert such as myself to find that images which would even be rejected in the West have a surprising popularity.

When were such images introduced? Is there a sense that they are as incompatible with Orthodoxy as Protestant songs? There is such a beautiful modern tradition of Coptic iconography that it is hard to understand why these Western images are present everywhere?

What is the reason?

Father Peter]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10574/to-deal-with-a-particular-objection-once-and-for-all-a-question-about-the-jews Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:09:50 +0000 dzheremi 10574@/community/discussions
I keep getting myself into the same silly argument over and over with non-Orthodox people on another board I post on. I maintain, as it seems to me that it is right to maintain, that Islam does not worship the true God (the God of Christianity, which is the only God there is). I say Muhammad's "Allah" is a false God.

The non-Orthodox people who disagree with me always respond: "But what about the Jews? They reject the Holy Trinity, too, but surely they also worship the one God? Our Lord and Savior was a Jew, and we accept the OT prophets like David, Isaiah, Ezekiel and others, who were also Jews. Your view is inconsistent and wrong."

Honestly, I don't have a very good answer for this. I had an answer (maybe not a very good one, from an Orthodox perspective) when I was Roman Catholic that seemed to satisfy most of them, but now that I'm not bound by that anymore, I'm really trying to find out the Orthodox position on this. I just spent a half hour searching for "Pope Shenouda III + Jews" and "Coptic Orthodox + Jews" and many other combinations on Google...I got a lot of very strange and sometimes interesting results, but nothing helpful for answering this question.

I have watched various sermons on orthodoxsermons.org by Fr. Anthony Messeh, Fr. Paul Girguis, and others that say that Orthodox Christians don't worship the same God as the Jews, or the same God as the Muslims. I believe it (these other religions deny the Holy Trinity, after all), but I don't feel like I can explain it to other people when it is true that the Old Testament is accepted as the words of God, the OT prophets are accepted, etc. When I tried to make the argument last time that the Jews aren't worshiping the God who Christians are worshiping, one of these non-Orthodox people called me a "Marcionite heretic"! Ouch!  :-\

Please, a little help, preferably from a Patristic viewpoint...!

Endless thanks for your time and assistance, Tasbeha. ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10566/a-new-government-for-egypt-coptic-position Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:45:15 +0000 Zoxsasi 10566@/community/discussions
What is the position of the Coptic Orthodox Church concerning the removal of the current Mubarak regime? Is it supporting Copts who wish to protest?

How does it view the protests?

Also, what is the best alternative government/leader for Egypt who will return the Copts back their rights. Who would that be? El Baradei?

Has the Pope said anything concerning this? Has he suggested a new leader or candidate that Copts should get behind?

Thanks]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10556/orthodox-purity-created Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:11:41 +0000 Ioannes 10556@/community/discussions

**Check that, its not private it is open to the public. **]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10553/protestant-and-western-influences-in-the-coptic-orthodox-church Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:46:49 +0000 peterfarrington 10553@/community/discussions
I am thinking so far of:

1. Music and worship

2. Art

3. Spirituality

4. Theology

5. Order and Discipline

6. Technology

Another question is when and where pews and seats have been introduced into Coptic Orthodox churches. In the ancient West it was traditional for people to stand through the services and there were benches along the walls for the weak and infirm. I assumed this was the case in Egypt as well. But most of the images I have seen of Coptic Churches and those I know in the West all seem to have pews and seats. When and why did this take place?

Father Peter ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10555/anba-mena-bishop-fresno-california Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:30:22 +0000 markoc pi apostolo 10555@/community/discussions
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001687262615#!/profile.php?id=100001687262615

you will find the english if you go down a little on the info this is like Max Michel guys I can't believe it
and someone changed it on this website

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Coptic_Orthodox_Church_in_the_United_States#Bishops_and_Dioceses

If you have any comments or outrages please reply this is the first I have heard of this and I am shocked!!!

]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10529/army-of-islam-responsible-for-coptic-new-year-massacre Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:15:17 +0000 Zoxsasi 10529@/community/discussions
Its all over the news that the Palestinian affiliate, Army of Islam, has been pinpointed as the culprits behind this attack:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0124/1224288164668.html

Although its NOT 100% certain it is them, and they have denied responsibility, they have in fact said something quite hurtful and disturbing:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12261668

According to the BBC report, the group said that they "PRAISE THOSE WHO DID IT!"

So, why on earth are Coptic Christians so sincere to their country? We fought with muslims against Israel and we are compassionate towards the Palestinians yet they "praise" those who attack us!!!!!

Obviously we're going to hear from MASR and other islamic members say "Oh! But they are not REAL muslims".

lol ...

NONSENSE!!

I was nearly beaten to death in Egypt because someone felt I didnt hate jews enough.


]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10526/why-do-we-take-communion-every-week Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:03:14 +0000 TITL 10526@/community/discussions
Hermits partake of Communion once a year; I guess they turn out fine.. I mean, they're saints. How can they attain such spirituality while abstaining from the Eucharist?

Before someone says it, I am not complaining. I am just asking.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10388/el-maqar-tv Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:14:50 +0000 Hezekiel 10388@/community/discussions
I have not seen it posted, but incase you do not know HG Anba David has a new website with four livestreaming TV.It is simply great.

El MaQar]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10497/myrna-mirna Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:24:55 +0000 [Deleted User] 10497@/community/discussions The user and all related content has been deleted.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10504/egypt-s-coptic-christians Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:36:08 +0000 ZanAmrikai 10504@/community/discussions http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00xhd7s#synopsis]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10359/attack-on-coptic-churches-in-europe Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:29:06 +0000 Zoxsasi 10359@/community/discussions
This situation has become even more dire:

H.G Bishop Angaelos and a few priests in Europe have approached the police with threats against their Churches.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12108677


Please pray for Muslims and all followers of this "religion of peace" that they may be more peaceful.

Thanks]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10482/biblical-canon-in-the-orthodox-church Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:18:24 +0000 anba bola 10482@/community/discussions this one to tell what "dueterocanonical" books we accept. I know the Eastern Orthodox accept third Maccabees and 1 Esdras (I think they have Ezra and Nehemiah combined as 2 Esdras), but I haven't got a definitive answer as to whether we accept them into our canon (It never says in the link that we don't accept them).

I assumed we don't accept them because they were not listed in the previous link, however today I was listening to a sermon by Fr. Tadros Y. Malaty, here (Septuagaint Books 1) and at about 3:40 he mentions that (my poor translation from arabic, he is talking about the books Orthodox accept in addition to those accepted by the RCC)


"The Churches which are Orthodox also accept these deuterocanonical books as canonical and they are: 1 Esdras or ... , the Prayer of Manasseh, 3 Maccabees, and Psalm 151"


Can anybody shed light on the situation. I can't find any reasons why we wouldn't accept them. They were also included in the Septuagint and I've yet to see something that says we don't accept them.

Thanks in advance and please pray for me.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10496/why-do-we-eat-this-in-epiphany Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:22:57 +0000 Godislove_ 10496@/community/discussions So I've been going to every grocery store around my area and at this time, I see oolaas. And everybody tells me they eat it for Epiphany. However, i do not know why its a big tradition, can anybody help me?]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10505/divorce-due-to-sexual-impotence-in-marriage Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:36:07 +0000 mariola 10505@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10493/announcing-the-publication-of-the-service-of-the-deacons Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:34:07 +0000 MarkSoliman 10493@/community/discussions
An exhaustive review of the book was undertaken personally by H.G. Bishop Youssef to ensure the accuracy of rites, translation, content, and organization.

Order from the following sites:
http://suscopts.org/diocese/bookstore/
http://www.stmosesbookstore.org/

Cost: $24.99 (plus shipping and handling)

Special discount for large orders:
- 10% discount to orders more than 100 books
- 15% discount to orders more than 500 books
- 20% discount to orders more than 1000 books]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10494/mourning-for-martyrs Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:33:25 +0000 copticuser20 10494@/community/discussions
I understand Christmas parties cancelled. But my church had a talent show scheduled for next week and they cancelled it because of what is going on in Egypt! How does having a talent show interfere with events in Egypt??? If you replace it with a prayer or something ok but its just canceled! I find the two events irrelevant. The martyrs went to heaven. Amen. More people will die. So are we going to be mourning our whole lives? Can someone please explain this all to me. ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10145/oral-exam-about-the-coptic-orthodox-church Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:42:20 +0000 marmar357 10145@/community/discussions
(edited:14/01: hey, please read the last page!)
I am gonna do a oral exam about the C.O.C. at 14 January
The exam is gonna take about 20 minutes.(..so
any ideas where I can talk about?
What are the most important things in the COC?
Interesting ideas? Anyone?
There are a lot of sites...but which one is the best?)

Thank u :D

GB]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10481/coptic-protesting-what-s-the-point Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:58:32 +0000 Zoxsasi 10481@/community/discussions
What's the point in saying that "God protects us" and then going off asking others to protect you?


But what I REALLY dont get is this:

In this video, Copts are protesting:



They keep shouting:  "STOP KILLING CHRISTIANS IN EGYPT"

What exactly are they thinking? That if they keep on saying that, terrorists are going to say "Ohh... OK.. no problem, we'll stop then"

If that's their aim, perhaps they should say instead "Please stop killing Christians in Egypt"  ?

I'm really puzzled at what the Church's objective is with all this demonstrations.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10469/synaxarium Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:41:35 +0000 gregorytheSinner 10469@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/10467/why-is-there-no-holy-50-days-equivalent-for-christmas Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:27:32 +0000 copticuser20 10467@/community/discussions