https://tasbeha.org/community/categories/coptic-orthodox-church/p27/feed.rss Fri, 19 Jun 2026 10:25:00 +0000 Coptic Orthodox Church - Tasbeha.org Community en-CA https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12983/alittle-more-clarity-on-great-lent Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:37:20 +0000 dustofthearth 12983@/community/discussions Whats clear to me is it's a vegan fast, I'm unclear on the strict abstinence part, im pretty sure it means not eating or drinking? an is it broken from day to day on weekdays with only one meal at Vespers? I also have a friend who's Eastern Orthodox (he helped me see the beauty of Orthodoxy) he's doing something else or maybe Im missing something? Thanks in advance - Jamie]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12989/introduction-to-the-creed Sat, 03 Mar 2012 13:27:44 +0000 copticuser20 12989@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12913/his-holiness-pope-shenouda-iii-on-the-topic-of-man-s-deification Wed, 15 Feb 2012 03:00:06 +0000 lankyknight1990 12913@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12978/god-is-the-head-of-christ Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:04:42 +0000 geomike 12978@/community/discussions
"But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God" (1 Cor 11:3)

Also, it says that man is above women? So i know this isn't what our church thinks but how do i explain that verse?]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12973/the-canonical-hour Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:15:57 +0000 mark.naguib7 12973@/community/discussions Also, do we pray the 9th hour during Lent since it is a fast? ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12960/coptic-language Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:24:10 +0000 markmarcos 12960@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12948/fraction-of-covenant-thursday Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:44:33 +0000 coptic pharoah 12948@/community/discussions
So I was looking around on YouTube, and I came along a Fraction for Covenant Thursday that is not the "normal" one that is usually said during Covenant Thursday.. Here's the link for it.. it is quite amazing:
Part 1:
Part 2:

I found the text for it in Arabic on St-Takla.org, and on there it says that this is a "non-canonical" fraction... Here's the text:

و حدث فى الأيام التى أراد الله أن يجرب ابراهيم و يعلم قلبه و محبته فيه. أنه قال له, ابراهيم ابراهيم خذ ابنك الحبيب اسحق و قدمة لى محرقة على الجبل الذى أعلمك بة. فقام ابراهيم باكرا و أسرج دابتة و أخذ غلامين و اسحق ابنة, و أخذ سكينا و نارا, و مشى على الأرض, فرأى الموضع من بعيد الذى أعلمة به الرب. فقال لغلامية اجلسا أنتما ههنا مع الدابة. و أما أنا و اسحق ابنى فنذهب و نسجد ثم نرجع اليكما. و أخذ ابراهيم حطب المحرقة و وضعه على اسحق ابنة, و أخذ بيدة النار و السكين. فقال اسحق لأبيه يا أبتاه هوذا النار و الحطب و أين الخروف الذى تقدمه للمحرقه, فقال له ابراهيم ان الله الذى أمرنا أن نرفع له ذبيحه هو يرى حملا لة للمحرقه يا ابنى. و أخذ ابراهيم حجارة و بنى مذبحا, و أخذ الحطب و رفعه على المذبح, و أخذ اسحق ابنة و ربطه و وضعه على المذبح, و أخذ السكين ليذبحه. و ان ملاك الرب نادى ابراهيم قائلا لة: ابراهيم ابراهيم انظر لا تلمس فتاك و لا تصنع به شرا. لما نظر الرب محبتك فيه فقال انى أنا هو الرب الهك أقسمت بذاتى انى بالبركة أباركك و بالكثرة أكثر نسلك. فرفع ابراهيم عينية فنظر خروفا عند الشجرة موثقا بقرنية, فترك اسحق ابنة و أخذ الخروف و أصعده محرقه عوضا عنه. فذبح اسحق كان اشارة الى هرق دم المسيح ابن الله على الصليب عن خلاص العالم. و كما حمل اسحق حطب المحرقه كذلك حمل المسيح خشبة الصليب. و كما رجع اسحق حيا هكذا أيضا المسيح قام حيا من الأموات و ظهر لتلاميذة القديسين. اللهم الذى قبل ذبيحة أبينا ابراهيم, اقبل هذة الذبيحة منا فى هذة الساعه. بارك هذة القرابين بارك الذين قدمت عنهم. نيح نفوس الأموات. فليبارك المسيح على قلوبنا جميعا و أرواحنا. لكى بقلب طاهر و نفس مستنيرة و وجه غير مخزى و ايمان بلا رياء و محبه كاملة و رجاء ثابت. نجسر بداله بغير خوف أن ندعوك يا الله الآب القدوس الذى فى السموات و نقول: أبانا الذي في السموات
http://st-takla.org/Lyrics-Spiritual-Songs/Words-of-Coptic-Alhan-Tasbeha-Kodas/Arabic-Coptic-Liturgy-Lyrics/5-Al-Kesam-Prayers/09-Kesmet-Khamis-El-3ahd.html

I was just wondering if any of you guys could clear up why we never use this Fraction, about its "validity" and all that..

Thanks,
Have a Blessed Lent

Coptic Pharaoh]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12394/coptic-month-pronunciation Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:13:51 +0000 copticuser20 12394@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12946/coptic-orthodox-facebook-pages Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:55:06 +0000 hany58 12946@/community/discussions
Do you know any facebook pages that are about coptic orthodox hymns, faith, sermons, open orthodox discussions, youth groups, hymns groups etc? anything about coptic orthodox church really!

If you know, please let me know

thanks a lot ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12937/coptic-catholics Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:00:39 +0000 Pharaoh714 12937@/community/discussions

But now look at this :




Seems familiar it looks exactly like our Orthodox Church but its Roman Catholic!!! 

I know the Coptic Church has been developing relations with the Latins but not like this..

Some one told me the Latins always mimic each cultures Churches..

Like in America the Catholic Churches look Protestant
In Egypt they look Coptic in every thing
etc.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12897/praying-in-coptic-praying-without-understanding Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:00:25 +0000 andrew8345 12897@/community/discussions
Praying more than 20 % in Coptic (if you don't understand it), is pointless. Yet, time and again I'll go to various churches and services with a lot of Coptic.

People wonder why the youth know little about the church...it's because many of her teachings can be found in the hymns, but they can't understand them!!

People wonder why Protestant music is popular among COCs...it's because the hymns have become just cool songs in Coptic with awesome hazzat!!

Why aren't we praying predominantly in English?! I want to understand.

It seems that people who like to pray in Coptic (and don't understand the language) want to do so because it "sounds better"...
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For me, The Humility of the leadership and the Monastics.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12929/theosis-again Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:03:54 +0000 lankyknight1990 12929@/community/discussions
Was talking to a friend and he said theosis is:

"Becoming God, Except in his Essence".

Now would that not mean that you don't become God, hence the statement you become God makes no sense>?]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12898/orthodox-studies Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:18:13 +0000 peterfarrington 12898@/community/discussions
But I am not sure if there is any sort of market for serious and formal education in Orthodox Studies, which would require a commitment of time and effort.

A standalone module would consist of about 100 hours of study, and would provide 10 hours of audio lectures. A printed and/or ebook format study guide, a directed reading list, and provision for several short assignments to be written and marked (1,000 words), and one longer assignment (3-4,000 words).

It would be expected that such a module would take 3-4 months of part-time study effort, there would also be an online site with reading and study materials available for download, a forum for discussion with other students, and the opportunity to receive guidance from the tutor by email.

This poll is just a way of gauging if there is any interest at all.

I think the cost would be something like £120 or $200.

The first available module could be determined by interest. It might be Introduction to Orthodox Spirituality, or it might be Introduction to Orthodox Christology, or it might be Introduction to Orthodox Church History.

I'd rather lots of people voted 'Not interested' than that there were no results for me to make any sort of judgement.

God bless

Father Peter]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12911/orthodox-studies-poll-2-if-you-are-ready-to-start Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:18:38 +0000 peterfarrington 12911@/community/discussions
I am preparing to begin the first module on 1st March, and will be taking registration details and fees as soon as we have agreed what the first module will be. I will be intending to produce the materials to support all students in a linear progress through the course material, but will also be hoping to be preparing material for a second module to be available before all students have completed this first one. Indeed once this module has begun it will be available to be started by other students as they choose, perhaps on a monthly start date to help keep track of cohorts of students.

Just a reminder. Each of the modules will have about 100 hours of study, including reading, audio materials, learning website, ebook study guide material, marking and commenting of assignments, private class forum and access to tutor by email, and will cost £120 or US $200 or CA $200.

Just to be clear, this is for one module. The certificate course will be 12 modules in length. The course material will be set at a comparable level to other UK CertHE courses, which is the first year of a UK university degree. It is estimated that each module will take 3-4 months to complete. This course will no be validated by a UK university until all of the modules have been prepared and made ready for use, but it is expected and intended that the course as a whole will provide a serious and worthwhile programme of study, whether one module or many are taken.

I am willing to be flexible in this first module in regard to assessment. I think that there should be one essay assignment, but other forms of assessment could take the form of multiple-choice and short answer questions.

If you are pretty much committed to taking this first course then do please indicate your preference on this poll, and if you are thinking of a particular topic I have not included then please PM me so I can include it.]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12908/the-6-days-of-creation Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:48:07 +0000 Rony 12908@/community/discussions
I have searched for the topic of creation in which God created the world in 6 days. I cannot find much information about this. I have also searched for scholarly sources, but could not find any Coptic Orthodox interpretations of the 6 days of creation. I am not interested in interpretations by the Roman Catholic Church, protestant Churches, or any other denomination of Christianity. I am interested in hearing upon our Church's understanding of the 6 days of creation.

I believe that God created the world. I believe that God would take even less than 6 days to create the world because of his unlimited power.  But I am interested in how God created the world. I want to try to understand; Were the 6 days of creation literally 6 days? Or was the story simplified for our limited knowledge' sake?

I think the overall message is that God created the world, and that the world He created was for us. How and When are questions that are so complex, God may have otherwise omitted it for us so as to not confuse us. We don't have understanding or knowledge or intelligence like our Supreme Creator.

But were the 6 days literal?

Please note: This question is just out of curiousity and in no way will it hinder my relationship with God. If anything; If will only bring me closer to God and to understanding Him better. ]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12902/liturgical-question Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:25:14 +0000 henrik.hank 12902@/community/discussions In the Coptic Litrugy the Canon of the Mass (don't know what you call it) is sung. Why is is sung instead of said in a silent voice?]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12886/jonah Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:48:39 +0000 mark.naguib7 12886@/community/discussions
How is it a three-day journey and he entered the city on the first day's walk?]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12878/great-lent Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:15:36 +0000 mark.naguib7 12878@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12849/doxology-question Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:15:00 +0000 peterfarrington 12849@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12884/christos-anesti Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:56:47 +0000 churchbob 12884@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12872/sayings-of-the-desert-fathers Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:31:08 +0000 peter_saad 12872@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12740/coptic-agpeya Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:21:30 +0000 peterfarrington 12740@/community/discussions
Thanks]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/9984/difference-between-eastern-orthodox-and-oriental-orthodox Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:35:05 +0000 anba bola 9984@/community/discussions
I have recently found something that may be a difference between the Eastern Orthodox and us (regarding our faith that is). I was on a mainly Eastern Orthodox site called monachos.net, and stumbled upon a forum talking about how we Orientals are Monothelites and the Eastern are Dyothelites which is what prevents unity. According to the members this means we believe in one nature in Christ and they believe in two. 

I have never heard of this term and don't understand whether this is true or a misunderstanding (just as we are sometimes mistakenly called monophysites, though we are miaphysites, and have the same belief on the nature of the Christ as the Eastern Orthodox).

Does anyone know the validity of these statements. Does the Easter Orthodox Church believe in two natures of Christ, and we believe in one?

Please pray for me,
Anba Bola]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12868/mahabba-bookshop-agpeya-info Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:42:14 +0000 flameinthesnow 12868@/community/discussions I'm new here. I was wondering if anyone has the Mahabba Bookshop edition of the Agpeya. I was thinking about getting one, but the websites that carry it have very little information on it: size, number of pages, English or Arabic, hardcover or paperback, dust jacket?, etc.

Does anyone have it who could fill in some of those blanks for me? I'd much appreciate it.

~Seraphim
]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12869/st-cyril-liturgy Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:20:51 +0000 mark.naguib7 12869@/community/discussions https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12657/new-english-language-orthodox-mission-in-london Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:20:47 +0000 peterfarrington 12657@/community/discussions
It is planned that it will begin with a monthly celebration of the Liturgy in English on a Saturday morning, with a monthly mid-week meeting for prayer and study.

If the mission gathers enough support then the frequency of these meetings might increase in the will of God.

Those who are interested in receiving news about the development of this mission, and who might wish to attend, should email fatherpeter@britishorthodox.org]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12862/factions-in-the-church Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:11:11 +0000 andrew8345 12862@/community/discussions
People are being labeled "conservative", "liberal", "radical", "protestant", "alhan junkie", etc.

Parties are being formed - liberal and conservative. The clashes between the two concern issues of worship, evangelism, etc.

People are backing the leaders of each party - "I support X", "I am with Y"

It is getting out of hand.

How can we minimize this? Any thoughts?]]> https://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/12860/commemoration-of-saints Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:50:15 +0000 mark.naguib7 12860@/community/discussions