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God will surely deliver His Church from this poison in time as He delivered it from Arianism, etc., and the solution is certainly genuine and full participation in the Divine Liturgy.  This fluff can't endure.  In 20 years, it will be one more worldly trend that has come and gone while the Orthodox Church and Faith will remain unchanged.

I am not sure where this confidence comes from. We are not immune to heresy.

Copts saved the world from heresy at multiple occasions, but this is remotely irrelevant to their descendents. It is not genetic, and Copts have developed an inferiority complex towards western spirituality that makes them repulsive to their rich heritage and theology.

Rome was orthodox at one point of time, and fell, and is continuing to fall.

Protestantism, style and dogma, is fully embraced by the vast majority of hierarchy and laymen. No question about it.

God will not unconditionally save the CC (coptic church) from heresy. There is a certain synergy that needs to exist like in any other aspect of orthodox life for the Grace of God to prevail.

Right now, there is a current against Orthodoxy in the CC. The few bishops and priests who have spoken against Protestant worship and dogma during the past 40 years, and did nothing to prevent it, have shut up since the general bishop of Behera assumed the Papacy.

They have all been elevated to positions of power that would enable them to take meaningful actions against heresy, and they just fell into perpetual indifference. Some of them even joined in the blasphemous visit to the Vatican. 

If you want to live Orthodoxy without any traces of western or eastern heresy, where would you go? Name one priest or one bishop, just one, who is truly Orthodox.

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Egyptian-born youth servant whose heart is in the right place but leads the youth astray because he's operating under the flawed assumptions that:

1.) Adapting to Western culture = becoming Protestantized.

2.) The youth need this stuff or they'll run away.


This is not the problem. What power does this average servant command? None.

The problem is that the church is run as a business, and the only revenue is from people. You have to satisfy their need. You are going down to their level to appease them, so they come, and pay for the church projects and other things. 

No one gives a rat's leg about the youth, it is the parents who they are after. You cater to these parents and their liberal youth while still giving them the sense that they are OK because they attend fundraising dinners organized by the "shersh", which is absolutely, positively a mega spiritual event, and they go to adulterous trips in Cancun, Mexico.   
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Christ's Servant's post is precisely on point.  God will surely deliver His Church from this poison in time as He delivered it from Arianism, etc., and the solution is certainly genuine and full participation in the Divine Liturgy.  This fluff can't endure.  In 20 years, it will be one more worldly trend that has come and gone while the Orthodox Church and Faith will remain unchanged.

The question is, how many faithful will have been seduced and fallen away in the meantime?


I just have to put this out there...am I the only one who thinks that the antagonist in RO's video sounds like HG Bishop Youssef??

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To me, he just sounds like every 30-40 something, Egyptian-born youth servant whose heart is in the right place but leads the youth astray because he's operating under the flawed assumptions that:

1.) Adapting to Western culture = becoming Protestantized.

2.) The youth need this stuff or they'll run away.

And then, unfortunately, there is another class of people who are genuinely attracted to Protestantism (watch Protestant preachers at home, etc.) and are bringing this stuff into the Church on purpose. :(
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Hymns Discussion / Re: Stream Hymns with iPhone/iPad
« Last post by Mgabby1234 on Today at 09:10:18 AM »
Great, thanks for the workaround.

Minatasgeel and admins it would still be nice to have this function properly.

Thanks!
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Hymns Discussion / Re: Apostles Fast Psali
« Last post by minatasgeel on Today at 08:04:08 AM »
Hey guys,

 I know it's a bit early, but can anyone here tell me the tune for the Apostles' Fast Psali Adam?
http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/839

There doesn't seem to be a recording available...
annual adam....same as Aikoti
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Introductions / Re: Greetings from Spain
« Last post by pulpito on Today at 07:39:50 AM »
Only I want to say, one more thing:

Not always was the some, in the Catholic Church. When I was a child, the Catholic Church was (all) different. In that time (1964), the Catholic Church seems to be like a Orthodox Church. After the Vatican II (Roman Concilio), all was different: From been like an  Orthodox, seem to be more like a Protestant Church.

But also there are many traditional believers ln the Roman Catholic Church. But they is required to obey to all. (I think, that something similar happened in Russia when communism). Right now, I pray for they all Catholics, because the evil (Deamon), put out of my Church. Pray to God for This, and pray for all sincere and humble people and good priest, in my Church, to be sants!

Please pray for my Church, as I pray also, for the Copts. Thanks.
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Personal Issues / Re: How long does it take to get married
« Last post by davidschanter on Today at 07:25:09 AM »
I think the minimum engagement period is 40 days. I've actually seen that period of engagement occur. Not sure if it was an exception to a six month rule (I've never heard of a six month rule).
So if you're looking to get married ASAP, make sure you let all the right people know about how fast you intend on tying the knot (parents, priest, deacon, family, close friends). A barrier I see to a speedy marriage is the preparation of a reception (especially if more than 100 guests are expected), which can take a year.  The other barrier is finding a bride who is actually ok with a half-planned wedding reception.
If you have the money, it should work out. But always remember that there are other considerations like getting a passport for honeymoon travel, scheduling with the priest, making sure the family is free on that day, etc.

After those barriers is the barrier of people spreading rumors about you and your bride. Don't forget that you're dealing with one of the best cultures of gossip. There aren't many reasons to have a shotgun wedding if you know what i mean. Hope this helps.

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Hymns Discussion / Apostles Fast Psali
« Last post by qawe on Today at 06:02:21 AM »
Hey guys,

 I know it's a bit early, but can anyone here tell me the tune for the Apostles' Fast Psali Adam?
http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/839

There doesn't seem to be a recording available...
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I just have to put this out there...am I the only one who thinks that the antagonist in RO's video sounds like HG Bishop Youssef??

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Do you mean the accent?
Because the first time I read that, I thought you meant his position/attitude!
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I just have to put this out there...am I the only one who thinks that the antagonist in RO's video sounds like HG Bishop Youssef??

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Random Issues / Re: Support HisVine - Lend a hand!
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