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Faith Issues / Re: Extreme Protestantism! (dumb edition)
« on: September 15, 2010, 10:00:43 PM »
Come to think of it, this tour coulda been associated with that fellow, Khemunt-Nu.
It was called the "Know Your Roots Tour" and I'm almost certain that they toured all over Africa, including Ethiopia.
The people there didn't really strike me as a religious group tho.
It was called the "Know Your Roots Tour" and I'm almost certain that they toured all over Africa, including Ethiopia.
The people there didn't really strike me as a religious group tho.
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Faith Issues / Re: Extreme Protestantism! (dumb edition)
« on: September 15, 2010, 08:43:09 PM »
I remember once running into a bunch of tourists who were having deep convos about the possible link between Christianity and Africa.
Their leader who seemed well-read, kept stating how the origin of Christianity was from Nigeria and Kenya. He used for example the fact that their was a tribe in Nigeria called the "Iaso" where Jesus got his name from.
He then started talking about this book, which from his basic summary inferred that the stories of the Bible didn't really happen in Israel, but in Egypt. So King Solomon wasn't an Israeli King, but an Egyptian Pharaoh.
http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Egyptian-Religion-Ahmed-Osman/dp/1591430461
Needless to say it's pretty unconvincing, specially since the author of the book appears to be a Muslim engineer.
I figured I'd share this little experience with you, because I see that your interested in disproving modern heretics, if one wants to call them that.
Their leader who seemed well-read, kept stating how the origin of Christianity was from Nigeria and Kenya. He used for example the fact that their was a tribe in Nigeria called the "Iaso" where Jesus got his name from.
He then started talking about this book, which from his basic summary inferred that the stories of the Bible didn't really happen in Israel, but in Egypt. So King Solomon wasn't an Israeli King, but an Egyptian Pharaoh.
http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Egyptian-Religion-Ahmed-Osman/dp/1591430461
Needless to say it's pretty unconvincing, specially since the author of the book appears to be a Muslim engineer.
I figured I'd share this little experience with you, because I see that your interested in disproving modern heretics, if one wants to call them that.
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Coptic Orthodox Church / Figured I'd Share...
« on: September 14, 2010, 08:24:37 PM »
I personally didn't know that Pope Athanasius body was uncorrupted. I also can't guarantee it is, but I found this link cool nonetheless.
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/05/incorrupt-relics-of-saint-athanasios.html
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/05/incorrupt-relics-of-saint-athanasios.html
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Faith Issues / Matt 1:24-25
« on: September 13, 2010, 03:07:55 PM »
" When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus."
Can someone explain how the words "no union UNTIL she gave birth" fit into the Orthodox idea that Mother Mary remained a virgin till her death?
Can someone explain how the words "no union UNTIL she gave birth" fit into the Orthodox idea that Mother Mary remained a virgin till her death?
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Faith Issues / Black Magic?
« on: September 09, 2010, 08:29:48 PM »
Does anyone have the opinion of the Church on it?
I personally don't believe in it, but I've recently heard of stories that happened to people I know by association. Opinions?
I personally don't believe in it, but I've recently heard of stories that happened to people I know by association. Opinions?
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Faith Issues / Chronological List of the Bible's books
« on: September 08, 2010, 10:09:50 PM »
Does someone know/have a chronological list of the books of the Bible? I'm pretty sure they're not arranged in that manner?
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Coptic Orthodox Church / Re: Our Patriarchs
« on: September 06, 2010, 12:09:37 PM »
Well yes, of course we are, I couldn't agree more however, I was looking for historical information. I'm not really concerned with the salvation of these men, for that is God's job. I was just interested in finding out if we [like other churches] were at one point led by less than noble Bishops.
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Coptic Orthodox Church / Our Patriarchs
« on: September 05, 2010, 06:24:16 PM »
Unfortunately our church history isn't quite as published as the Catholic church per se, so it's kinda hard to gather information about subjects like these.
I know that not all our patriarchs are considered saints but, were any of them 'evi' or 'corrupt?' The patriarchs in question, are the ones who were justly elected patriarchs, not the anti-popes who were imposed on us by various powers.
I know that not all our patriarchs are considered saints but, were any of them 'evi' or 'corrupt?' The patriarchs in question, are the ones who were justly elected patriarchs, not the anti-popes who were imposed on us by various powers.
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Faith Issues / Re: St. Mary's Response vs. Zachariah the Priest's?
« on: September 03, 2010, 04:34:38 PM »
well when i first noticed it, i figured Zachariah received the punishment do to his position as a man of God?
but when i read it over a couple of times, i just couldn't comprehend they both asked how b/c it was physically impossible? the sarcasm theory, fits beautifully, but the passage doesn't relay enough evidence to support it?
but when i read it over a couple of times, i just couldn't comprehend they both asked how b/c it was physically impossible? the sarcasm theory, fits beautifully, but the passage doesn't relay enough evidence to support it?
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Faith Issues / St. Mary's Response vs. Zachariah the Priest's?
« on: September 03, 2010, 02:21:19 PM »
According to the Gospel of Luke, the Archangel Gabriel visited both of them, prophesying the births of Christ and John the Baptist.
Both responded in the same exact way, asking how and then stating their reasoning for being hesitant about accepting such news [St. Mary said "she knew no man" and Zachariah the Priest said "he and his wife were of old age"].
Yet, only Zachariah was seemingly punished due to his weak faith?
Can someone explain why? Have the Church father's commented about this?
Both responded in the same exact way, asking how and then stating their reasoning for being hesitant about accepting such news [St. Mary said "she knew no man" and Zachariah the Priest said "he and his wife were of old age"].
Yet, only Zachariah was seemingly punished due to his weak faith?
Can someone explain why? Have the Church father's commented about this?
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Non-Orthodox Inquiries / Re: Bible and the Quran Similar?
« on: August 31, 2010, 02:07:32 PM »
I've actually heard that story as well, it's quite popular amongst the Copts, but nevertheless, it is what it is, a story, with no backing evidence.
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Non-Orthodox Inquiries / Re: Bible and the Quran Similar?
« on: August 30, 2010, 09:09:32 AM »
The Quran, is a book that was attempting to 'get the story right' as opposed to the Bible's "fallacies" [that Mohammed didn't approve of.] As a result one will find many similarities between the two, because one was copied from the other i.e. the virginal birth of Christ [who they disregard as being God, but somehow accept and value Mohammed's birth more.]
Also stoning, killing, and invading was the law of the land back then. It's how people survived and prospered. When Christ came, he bought with him a better way, where the main goal of a follower wouldn't be to survive on Earth, but to make to Heaven.
Also stoning, killing, and invading was the law of the land back then. It's how people survived and prospered. When Christ came, he bought with him a better way, where the main goal of a follower wouldn't be to survive on Earth, but to make to Heaven.
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Faith Issues / Commentary
« on: August 25, 2010, 12:24:53 PM »
Does anyone know where I can get my hands on some of the early father's commentary on the Holy Bible?
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Random Issues / Re: MOSQUE!!!!!
« on: August 20, 2010, 05:32:13 PM »Quote
Gregory,
The main issue is the mosque, relative to historical tradition, would be a triumph marker for a victory of Islam over the Infidel. This is no different than other mosques in Asia Minor and the Middle East. They are commemorative for a given victory.
This is the reason for the controversy.
Well yea you're right, most terrorists will see this as a win, however does that mean it's right to technically deny the American Muslims [who for the most part, aren't terrorists]the right to worship there. If America refused to allow it's construction, so the extremists don't call it a victory, then technically America would be discriminating against the entire Muslim population, for a small minority. Sorta like me not hiring all Hispanics, because I don't like Cubans [just an example, I really have no problem with Hispanics.]
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Random Issues / Re: MOSQUE!!!!!
« on: August 20, 2010, 02:15:33 PM »
This is just my point of view, I honestly don't mean to offend anyone but...
Ithink it SHOULD be built.
As long as it doesn't affect our beliefs, then why would we object to people exercising their rights. America was never designated as a Christian country [and even if it was, I find it Anti-Christian, to deny people freedom of religion] but as a country for all to worship to whomever they want.
I understand many disagree with me, because of the 'not-so-nice' things Muslims have inflicted on Christians in the past, but I find it completely close-minded of Americans to object to allowing it to be built next to the WTC site, it's that kind of thinking that promotes hate and racism. People shouldn't allow the actions of a few, to reflect on a religion [regardless of how false it is.] I understand some people will say that Islam teaches such and such, but when it boils down to it, only a minority fully believe in following 'such and such' and even a smaller minority actually practice it.
Ithink it SHOULD be built.
As long as it doesn't affect our beliefs, then why would we object to people exercising their rights. America was never designated as a Christian country [and even if it was, I find it Anti-Christian, to deny people freedom of religion] but as a country for all to worship to whomever they want.
I understand many disagree with me, because of the 'not-so-nice' things Muslims have inflicted on Christians in the past, but I find it completely close-minded of Americans to object to allowing it to be built next to the WTC site, it's that kind of thinking that promotes hate and racism. People shouldn't allow the actions of a few, to reflect on a religion [regardless of how false it is.] I understand some people will say that Islam teaches such and such, but when it boils down to it, only a minority fully believe in following 'such and such' and even a smaller minority actually practice it.
