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Hymns Discussion / kata ni khoros...short and long?
« on: Today at 04:27:06 AM »
Christ is risen!

I was listening to "kata ni khoros" on this site from both CIA and Cantor Farag...I couldn't help but notice that Cantor Farag seems to cut the hymn short (at least when comparing it to CIA). I am referring to the hazzat in the word "evsop"...

Anyone know what the deal with that is?

CIA (3 min mark)

Cantor Farag (2 min 50 sec mark)


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looool!

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Coptic Orthodox Church / Re: Confession During Holy Week
« on: May 02, 2013, 02:02:34 PM »
OK.. regardless - what is the official view of the COC? is it ok to confess during the Holy week? i haven't confessed in ages, and I feel so bad to have communion on the Eid without having confessed in such a long time.

What am I meant to do?

Most people who confess during Holy Week do it some time during the Apocalypse Night.

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Faith Issues / Re: Science vs. faith
« on: April 04, 2013, 04:02:42 PM »
There is so much wrong information in this flow chart that I can write a 5 page rebuttal. I'll just point out one thing.

This flowchart assumes that scientific method can apply matters of faith. By definition an experiment can only examine finite material that is reproducible. Science cannot design an experiment that examines infinity. Albert Einstein said that science cannot prove the existence of God, only disprove any theory about God.

This means that scientific method cannot apply to religion. The author of this flowchart erroneously implies and concludes faith is inferior to science because of inadequate experimentation. It has nothing to do with inadequate or infrequent experiments in faith, just inadequate scientific methodology.

I can go on if anybody wants.

Please do continue, if you can  :)

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Coptic Orthodox Church / Re: What's wrong with us??
« on: March 19, 2013, 09:46:56 AM »
Zoxsasi,

It seems that unity between the OO & EO wouldn't solve your problem anyway -- since the "opera" style worship is too great a turn-off for you.

Unfortunately, I see only two options for you:

1) Petition for a Coptic Orthodox parish in your area.

2) Move to an area with a Coptic Orthodox parish.

If you are "dying", as you say, from this, then you have to doing something to live.


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Random Issues / Re: Tasbeha during Lent
« on: March 17, 2013, 08:41:19 PM »
During Sundays' Eve:
You may pray the entire lent psalmody with its hoos, psalies and commentaries found here: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/cat/82


Is there also audio for the above?

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Youth Corner / Re: Fr Dawood Lamie English Conference
« on: March 06, 2013, 12:30:32 AM »
Thank you!  :)

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Good stuff, Peter. Very unique "hazzats" that are surprisingly pretty easy to follow

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I vote for the AP class as well. At this stage in the game (assuming you have already applied to college, sent your midyear report, etc), second semester grades A or B won't make much of a difference. However, if you get the AP credit is may save you a course in college which would be much more valuable.

Ditto.

Second semester grades definitely don't factor in, unless there is a serious drop in grades.

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Take the AP class - college credit is too valuable to pass up. The hours you spend on this class now will save you a lot more time in the future, since you can skip an English class (at least that's how it was for me).

As far as educational benefit, I can't speak as to which is greater. What does the honors research course curriculum look like?


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Random Issues / Re: Iqbal
« on: January 16, 2013, 03:12:55 AM »
thanks, qawe.

I just need an email, though.

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Random Issues / Iqbal
« on: January 15, 2013, 10:42:00 PM »
Hi all,

Does anyone know how I can contact 'Iqbal'; he was a moderator on this forum? I had been in contact with him before but lost his email.

(He was also the creator of erkohet.com)

If anyone can help, please message me.

Thanks!

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Introductions / Re: So excited to be part of this community!
« on: January 15, 2013, 10:29:22 PM »
InChrist7,

Please keep in mind that it was your declaration that this show was an "authentic Orthodox witness to Christ" (something even Marina doesn't claim) that sparked the long discussion that ensued.

Marina,

Thanks for the response. And I agree with Remnkemi, you should have at least 10 episodes of material with this thread!

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Introductions / Re: So excited to be part of this community!
« on: January 15, 2013, 12:15:43 PM »
Very well put, RO.

Solidman,

I did not dodge your question, but perhaps my answer to it did not meet your expectations. You
should realize that your question and mine are not the same. You ask a question that merely requires
me to list things that can disqualify something as Orthodox. I, on the other hand, have asked you to indirectly define Orthodoxy. Answering your question may give us a picture of Orthodoxy, negatively -answering my question requires a positive account.

In any case, I have said all I wanted regarding this show. If you want to start another thread to continue this discussion, please do. But, out of respect for marina's thread, I won't continue here.

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Introductions / Re: So excited to be part of this community!
« on: January 15, 2013, 03:17:56 AM »

I appreciate your spirit of encouragement, InChrist7, but to call this show an "authentic Orthodox witness to Christ" is a stretch. If we were to censor the CYC label in the background, this show could pass for a TBN program. You wouldn't call a program on TBN an "authentic Orthodox witness to Christ", would you? Assuming you wouldn't, why do you label this show as such? Is it merely because the host is Coptic Orthodox?

The show neither begins nor ends in the name of the Holy Trinity; the reflections on the passages from the Bible do not appeal to any of our Fathers' interpretations; the guests do not seem to be Orthodox, the undertone of each episode I've seen is feminist. . .etc.

Hey Andrew. Nice name. Interesting post. It sparked my curiosity...

I just finished watching the show linked in the original post. When I read your comment, it made me wonder why you believe this show should not be considered orthodox. Is it only because of the reasons you listed?

I have yet not said the show is un-Orthodox, though there are some concerning aspects I raised above.
Just because the host is Orthodox, does not mean the show is. It may contain beneficial advice, and that is great.

For me, this show is on somewhat neutral territory. My only issue was with InChrist7 anointing this show as an "authentic Orthodox witness to Christ". That type of language is much too charitable.

Look - my intention was not to criticize the show. I gave Marina an opportunity to express openness to receiving my thoughts, but she did not respond, so I withheld them. I really have nothing further to say.

That said, I do hope this has made some people think about the question underlying some of our discussion: what makes something Orthodox?



 

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