What are the rites for the sunday before the first day (monday) of Great Lent?

[baladoos]

Hi Everyone,

Can you please tell me what are the rites for the sunday before the first day (monday) of Great Lent? Do we say anything from the Great Lent rites at all? please tell what your sources are. thanks

[minatasgeel]

Hi Everyone,

Can you please tell me what are the rites for the sunday before the first day (monday) of Great Lent? Do we say anything from the Great Lent rites at all? please tell what your sources are. thanks

I was told that it is exactly like the last friday of lent. Now i can't confirm that from a book but i believe it is much true.

[caji]

I'm pretty sure its annual.

[minatasgeel]

wait, i am sorry. i thought you are asking about THE MONDAY and not sunday. That Sunday liturgy has it's on reading, it the the Preparation Sunday. It also has a unique rite. it is annual until the Gospel. than from the gospel response and on is lent. the response that is to be said is Je peniot, in weekend lenten tune. then you can say everything for lent after that even psalm 150 and conclusion/

[Amoussa01]

Mina,

can you provide a source?

[imikhail]

Mina,

can you provide a source?

Minatasgeel is correct ...

The source is tarteeb albay3a

[minatasgeel]

Mina,

can you provide a source?

Anba Mettaous rite book.....and imikhail's word :-)

[imikhail]

Mina,

can you provide a source?

Anba Mettaous rite book.....and imikhail's word :-)

 

[Amoussa01]

Mina,

You said "you can say" psalm 150 and the conclusion. Are you implying that it is optional to choose between the Lent or Annual rite? Is that what the book specifically states?

[Mark12345]

In the Rite of the Great Lent, the Liturgy of the Catechumens on the Sunday preceding the Holy Lent is prayed as usual. The readings however are taken from the Lectionary of the Great Lent and not from the annual readings. The Divine Liturgy is also prayed in the Annual Rite with the exception that the Fraction is read that of the Great Lent. Also, Psalm 150 is chanted during communion in the tune of the Lenten Saturdays and Sundays, followed by the Praise of the First Week of the Holy Lent, and the concluding creed for the end of service for the Saturdays and Sundays of the Holy Lent. This is all done to remind the believers that the Lent is to start the following day.

~copticheritage.org (HCOC Website)
http://www.copticheritage.org/rites/10_the_great_lent
Hope this answers your question,
Cyril

[minatasgeel]

Mina,

You said "you can say" psalm 150 and the conclusion. Are you implying that it is optional to choose between the Lent or Annual rite? Is that what the book specifically states?

oh. No. this is a must. the lent rite begins from Je peniout of that sunday liturgy. there is no going back.

[Mark12345]

...do not turn back...you CAN'T trun back...lest you be turned into a pillar of salt...  

[Amoussa01]

thanks Mina and Cyril...I was just on that site...I don't know how i missed that

[Andrew]

In the Rite of the Great Lent, the Liturgy of the Catechumens on the Sunday preceding the Holy Lent is prayed as usual. The readings however are taken from the Lectionary of the Great Lent and not from the annual readings. The Divine Liturgy is also prayed in the Annual Rite with the exception that the Fraction is read that of the Great Lent. Also, Psalm 150 is chanted during communion in the tune of the Lenten Saturdays and Sundays, followed by the Praise of the First Week of the Holy Lent, and the concluding creed for the end of service for the Saturdays and Sundays of the Holy Lent. This is all done to remind the believers that the Lent is to start the following day.

~copticheritage.org (HCOC Website)
http://www.copticheritage.org/rites/10_the_great_lent
Hope this answers your question,
Cyril

This doesn't say anything about Je Peniot. . .

So I'm a bit confused, do we treat it as if it were a regular weekend of the Great Lent (Je Peniot, Meghalo, etc.)?

[minatasgeel]

So I'm a bit confused, do we treat it as if it were a regular weekend of the Great Lent (Je Peniot, Meghalo, etc.)?

Sunday morning from Matins till the sermon (if your church has them) is annual. Then the Lent gospel response is said and the rest of the liturgy is prayed in the lent rite.