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Tell Congress: Don’t censor the Web

Fighting online piracy is important. The most effective way to shut down pirate websites is through targeted legislation that cuts off their funding. There’s no need to make American social networks, blogs and search engines censor the Internet or undermine the existing laws that have enabled the Web to thrive, creating millions of U.S. jobs. if this passes it can affect Tasbeha.org !!

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 06:31:45 PM »
Censorship would only be a problem if tasbeha.org is pirating material. If it is, then no one can complain about censorship. If it isn't, then there is nothing to worry about.

Google's interests has nothing to do a thriving web or US jobs. Google is only interested in retaining control. Their solution of targeting legislation to cut off their funding is a joke because they know such targeted legislation is doomed to fail.


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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 07:31:06 PM »
There are some posts here that have lyrics or link to websites hosting lyrics of modern songs in critique of them. Also many people have linked to upload websites to download a hymn or file.  If the bill passes, theoretically, Tasbeha could be held responsible for this (posting copyrighted content or linking to blacklisted websites) and blocked from direct access in the USA.

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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 07:35:35 PM »
There are some posts here that have lyrics or link to websites hosting lyrics of modern songs in critique of them. Also many people have linked to upload websites to download a hymn or file.  If the bill passes, theoretically, Tasbeha could be held responsible for this (posting copyrighted content or linking to blacklisted websites) and blocked from direct access in the USA.
nope. we don't post the links. users do.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 07:44:06 PM »
You can't use wikipedia today, it's annoying.

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 07:48:21 PM »
^^^^ Why would you use wikipedia anyways it is not a credible source lol JK I feel bad for all middle schoolers who have projects to do XD

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 08:38:00 PM »
To use Wikipedia, simply go to the page you want, and once the page loads, right before the Black screen indicating the blackout comes up, press the escape key. You will have to do this for every wikipedia article you go on. You have to time it right though.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 09:25:25 PM »
There are some posts here that have lyrics or link to websites hosting lyrics of modern songs in critique of them. Also many people have linked to upload websites to download a hymn or file.  If the bill passes, theoretically, Tasbeha could be held responsible for this (posting copyrighted content or linking to blacklisted websites) and blocked from direct access in the USA.
nope. we don't post the links. users do.

Exactly! That's why the bill is horrible! Because websites WOULD be made responsible for what content their users posted. Each website would have to be responsible for censoring its content against content infringement that users post or else the site itself (not the users) would be punished. You can read more about this here:
http://www.bradsreader.com/2012/01/sopapipa-explained-why-you-should-care/

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 09:38:10 PM »
To use Wikipedia, simply go to the page you want, and once the page loads, right before the Black screen indicating the blackout comes up, press the escape key. You will have to do this for every wikipedia article you go on. You have to time it right though.

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Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?
Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Technical_FAQ%20. Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.

=) I hope that wasn't copyrighted

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 10:24:13 PM »
Exactly! That's why the bill is horrible! Because websites WOULD be made responsible for what content their users posted. Each website would have to be responsible for censoring its content against content infringement that users post or else the site itself (not the users) would be punished.
I still don't see a problem. If a medical assistant stole money from a patient, isn't the doctor and/or the hospital responsible for any consequences? This is part of reality. If a user posts illegal material, the website shares the consequences/liability. And if a user posts illegal material, we shouldn't be concerned about what will happen to the website. We should be concerned about what will happen to the user in the final judgment.

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 10:46:51 PM »
Exactly! That's why the bill is horrible! Because websites WOULD be made responsible for what content their users posted. Each website would have to be responsible for censoring its content against content infringement that users post or else the site itself (not the users) would be punished.
I still don't see a problem. If a medical assistant stole money from a patient, isn't the doctor and/or the hospital responsible for any consequences? This is part of reality. If a user posts illegal material, the website shares the consequences/liability. And if a user posts illegal material, we shouldn't be concerned about what will happen to the website. We should be concerned about what will happen to the user in the final judgment.

You don't see a problem?!! Think of it like this. Let's say i really hate tasbeha.org so i will make an account and put links to movies that are bootlegged or free ms office just to take down the site. That's why this is a stupid bill.

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 10:50:04 PM »
the only problem that there maybe is that the uploading sites that one might upload a liturgy on to share is the same site that may have a movie that is copyrighted. the servers you upload to in general don't care what you upload because to them, it's all bits--data that you are uploading and downloading.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 10:59:25 AM »
You don't see a problem?!! Think of it like this. Let's say i really hate tasbeha.org so i will make an account and put links to movies that are bootlegged or free ms office just to take down the site. That's why this is a stupid bill.
This is no different than the medical assistant embezzlement. The onus is on sites like tasbeha.org to take preventative actions to prevent people from putting links of pirated material.

Why are we siding with big business who make it easy for piracy instead of defending the authors and owners who had their work stolen? Are we inclined to side with big business because we just don't want to loose the ability to use pirated material? Is this not a reflection of our own ethical shortcomings?

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 11:50:47 AM »
Much of the pirated material does not effect the actual person who created whatever it is that is being pirated. For instance the music industry giants make a big deal about the artist being ripped off when in reality it is not the artist that suffers but the label and distributors. A well known artist generally gets fractions of a penny per track per album. They make their money when they tour, not on album sales. They make even less when their music is sold on the internet. People now generally only download the songs that appeal to them, instead of buying a crappy album for one good song. Therefore the artist makes even less when it is sold on the internet. Don't let these big business thugs lead you to believe that "piracy" is sapping the artists profits. Ever seen 50 cents house? Get real!

I support internet piracy and to show that, I give my material away for free. I still offer the paperback BUT you are only paying for the actual printing of it.
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