I should've been more clear. Whenever there's tasbeha in church and I invite most of my friends to come they adamantly refuse, they say they don't 'enjoy it'. I think that's partially because we have become so accustomed to praising with guitars and pianos playing in the background. So now most youth are going to Protestant concerts and, simply deem it as praising GodBut I think you're 100% correct in what you say. Our problem is that we don't even understand Orthodoxy, let alone practice it.
Protestantism is about the self, therefore protestant worship is self worship. They create a god they are comfortable with. They believe what they want Christianity to be NOT what Christianity is. This is lawlessness which Christ speaks of in Mt 7:22
Quote from: Ioannes on January 12, 2012, 10:40:42 PMProtestantism is about the self, therefore protestant worship is self worship. They create a god they are comfortable with. They believe what they want Christianity to be NOT what Christianity is. This is lawlessness which Christ speaks of in Mt 7:22They also make the Bible what they want it to be. You know they almost took out the book of Hebrews because it talked about priesthood and they don't agree with it? It's already enough they took out the Deutrocanonical Books.
Christ's Servant brings up an important point: The youth think tasbeha is boring. I think there are a few reasons why tasbeha is "boring" (this is in no particular order):1) Sin - it is hard to genuinely praise God without having repented. Your mind constantly wanders and your heart is heavy because it is burdened with guilt and shame.2) Language - when we pray more than half the hymns in Coptic and no one understands, we are missing the point and not benefiting. 3) Understanding - lack of knowledge concerning the hymns (what they refer to, their purpose, the progression, etc.) limits how deep one can go into the praises. 4) "Hyphy" tasbehas - when the cymbals are played fast, the pitch is high, someone is doing a solo, the volume is up, everyone is bobbin' their heads, etc., something is wrong. We no longer have an argument against the Protestant concert, if we are turning tasbeha into a concert. It should be prayed calmly, the cymbals should be played humbly, no one voice should stand out and we should unite to glorify God. When this is not the case - we will judge one tasbeha as being a "good" one because "folan" was playing the cymbals tight and we said all the cool hymns. . .5) Lack of preparation - going to asheya before, avoiding small talk, praying the agbeya, etc., all need to be done to prepare one's mind and clear it from the thoughts of the world. 6) Lack of Habituation - You don't like something that is good for you after doing it once. In the same way that any overweight person who goes to the gym hates his life after the first workout, the young kid who never prayed a tasbeha before will hate life after it. But after doing it for a while he will see the fruits. As the fat man loses weight and feels good about himself, the person who continues praying tasbeha will forget himself and focus on God. 7) Role-models - Where are they? Kids want to see the cool servant at tasbeha but all they see is old uncles and the same few chanters who are at church for every occasion. There is no one to connect with. It looks like tasbeha is either for old people or saints. Please add anything else or correct any problems.
I do not appreciate the slander towards people who may not be willfully blind. They have some of the best music is of course written by them. They have talents given by god that u do not have. God wants emotion. He wants us to praise with all our heart. So don't condemn emotion in praising god. Whether Protestantism is acceptable in the eyes of god does not matter for you perhaps but it asks the question do u or i have a relationship with god?If we do we would desire their salvation and pray for them to become orthodox if necessary but why should we slander them so they convert just out of fear and feelings of worthlessness. It is gods job to draw people to himself I responded through my iPhone which is why I am not correcting or adding more lol