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Protestant Concerts
« on: January 11, 2012, 12:03:03 AM »
What do you guys think about the Hillsong, Casting Crowns, etc concerts??

Is it ok (beneficial) to attend such concerts? Isn't it "all praising God"? OR can they do more harm than good?

People from my church are already booking tickets, and are all super excited! ???

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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 12:07:19 AM »
What do you guys think about the Hillsong, Casting Crowns, etc concerts??

Is it ok (beneficial) to attend such concerts? Isn't it "all praising God"? OR can they do more harm than good?

People from my church are already booking tickets, and are all super excited! ???

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Well there's a difference. In my experience Protestants usually "praise" God off of emotion that's why they have drums and guitars and loud speakers. They get caught up with the music and think that they are praising God but in reality most of them are just really getting into the music. This is why our church wisely prohibits the use of instruments in the church.

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 12:10:55 AM »
No these are not acceptable. Remember what PROTESTant means! They reject everything we deem necessary for salvation. If they reject the church, they reject Christ. You would not go to an Arian concert or Nestorian concert would you?
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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 08:31:25 AM »
Am not denying that Protestantism is wrong, but surely going to such concerts is better than going to all the new hip/hop, rap, rock, etc., music concerts??

They aren't really attending a Protestant service/meeting, so they won't really be exposed to Protestant theology. Can any harm be done from these concerts.
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"God always helps. He always comes in time, but patience is necessary.

Do you see how much the Lord loves us? Do you see how fortunate we ungrateful ones are for everything that His goodness gives us every day?
But, O sweet love of Christ, what good didst Thou see in us that Thou didst lead us along Thy divine path?"
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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 09:35:20 AM »
What spiritual value do these concerts give?

Our Church praises are much deeper spiritually than such Protestant concerts.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 08:27:57 PM »

 I agree with Ioannes. Futhermore, the very concept of the concert is praising God in your own way, without the need of the church. If a church is involved it would be a liberal one.

   It is important to have some sort of understanding of the nature of God. I believe our church does and has our seed planted in the good soil.
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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 11:16:30 PM »
What's wrong with christian rock? i mean, that type of music shouldnt be what your whole spiritual life is based on, but i do like their songs. t's better than listening to all the garbage that radio stations are now playing. and almost always, the message of the song is a good one
even if you don't believe in protestant theology, protestants believe in Jesus Christ. perhaps I'm oversimplyfying it, but there's no reason to boycott their music just because they're no orthodox.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 01:17:00 AM »
Praising is a liturgical practice where the participants have the same faith and are praying with one accord.

Concerts are not liturgical by definition. How can we Orthodox pray with the protestants who protest against our faith? How can we pray with them with one accord?

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 02:17:48 AM »
Praising is a liturgical practice where the participants have the same faith and are praying with one accord.

Concerts are not liturgical by definition. How can we Orthodox pray with the protestants who protest against our faith? How can we pray with them with one accord?

I really like this, imikhail.

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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 07:31:18 AM »
We are prohibiting this guy from attending a protestant concert, but are we offering the equivalent of an "Orthodox Concert" where this poor fellow lives?

We tell our youth that they cannot attend the catholic church, yet we do not have orthodox churches where they live.

We tell our youth that they cannot marry outside the Orthodox faith, yet to find a coptic orthodox girl who actually likes you is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Therefore, my 2 cents is this:

In Egypt, there are Orthodox Concerts. If you really love your Church that much, go back to Egypt, a Coptic Orthodox Christian outside Egypt is as good as dead.

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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 04:22:32 PM »
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Am not denying that Protestantism is wrong, but surely going to such concerts is better than going to all the new hip/hop, rap, rock, etc., music concerts??

Isn't eating garbage better than eating stool? Then let us all eat garbage.

In any case, if you really want Protestant concerts, go to any youth group in Egypt or outside of Egypt.

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 05:00:24 PM »
I highly suspect that Stavro is ILSM.  ::)
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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 08:04:30 PM »
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Am not denying that Protestantism is wrong, but surely going to such concerts is better than going to all the new hip/hop, rap, rock, etc., music concerts??

Isn't eating garbage better than eating stool? Then let us all eat garbage.

In any case, if you really want Protestant concerts, go to any youth group in Egypt or outside of Egypt.

Agreed. This is a problem

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2012, 09:47:14 PM »
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Am not denying that Protestantism is wrong, but surely going to such concerts is better than going to all the new hip/hop, rap, rock, etc., music concerts??

Isn't eating garbage better than eating stool? Then let us all eat garbage.

In any case, if you really want Protestant concerts, go to any youth group in Egypt or outside of Egypt.

Agreed. This is a problem

Then what's the solution?

We are prohibiting this guy from attending a protestant concert, but are we offering the equivalent of an "Orthodox Concert" where this poor fellow lives?

We tell our youth that they cannot attend the catholic church, yet we do not have orthodox churches where they live.

We tell our youth that they cannot marry outside the Orthodox faith, yet to find a coptic orthodox girl who actually likes you is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Therefore, my 2 cents is this:

In Egypt, there are Orthodox Concerts. If you really love your Church that much, go back to Egypt, a Coptic Orthodox Christian outside Egypt is as good as dead.

Amen.

I would happily go to an Orthodox concert any day, but that's a rare commodity here. And so the youth seek other options, i.e. protestant concerns and the like. Tasbeha is no longer an option, because it's "just boring". So what can be done?
"God always helps. He always comes in time, but patience is necessary.

Do you see how much the Lord loves us? Do you see how fortunate we ungrateful ones are for everything that His goodness gives us every day?
But, O sweet love of Christ, what good didst Thou see in us that Thou didst lead us along Thy divine path?"
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Re: Protestant Concerts
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 09:50:50 PM »
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Am not denying that Protestantism is wrong, but surely going to such concerts is better than going to all the new hip/hop, rap, rock, etc., music concerts??

Isn't eating garbage better than eating stool? Then let us all eat garbage.

In any case, if you really want Protestant concerts, go to any youth group in Egypt or outside of Egypt.

Agreed. This is a problem

Then what's the solution?

We are prohibiting this guy from attending a protestant concert, but are we offering the equivalent of an "Orthodox Concert" where this poor fellow lives?

We tell our youth that they cannot attend the catholic church, yet we do not have orthodox churches where they live.

We tell our youth that they cannot marry outside the Orthodox faith, yet to find a coptic orthodox girl who actually likes you is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Therefore, my 2 cents is this:

In Egypt, there are Orthodox Concerts. If you really love your Church that much, go back to Egypt, a Coptic Orthodox Christian outside Egypt is as good as dead.

Amen.

I would happily go to an Orthodox concert any day, but that's a rare commodity here. And so the youth seek other options, i.e. protestant concerns and the like. Tasbeha is no longer an option, because it's "just boring". So what can be done?

That the thing. We Orthodox don't do "Concerts." We pray, not watch! And what do you mean by tasbeha is no longer an option because it is just boring? The solution is my name and all that is implied by it...

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