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seriously considering it.
« on: September 21, 2011, 05:25:00 PM »
I am seriously considering suicide. I have many internal issues that I can't discuss with anyone that I have been struggling with and I really can't handle it anymore. Please pray for me.
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Re: seriously considering it.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 05:34:37 PM »
Listen to your own advice - I thought it was great.

I wrote a short story about this.  It's titled Suicide.  It will come out in a week or so...definitely before August 10th.  I will send you the link to it when it does come out.  I hope that you would take the time to read the story and think about the message in it and decide against doing something like that.  Please don't do it.  If you understand Arabic, listen to this...it's powerful...and very comforting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe2ZeUGbJGQ

"But he who endures to the end shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13, NKJV)

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Re: seriously considering it.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 08:11:15 PM »

 Why can't you discuss those issues with anyone? Alot of people are forgiving so please try. You need support Godlovesme. The internal stuggles are obstacles you need help with. Fear is large for some, so please try to fight it. Satan kills what we love. He hates that we commune with others with love and understanding. His desire is the hate of love. If you are depressed then maybe you get angry and people don't respond the way you would like them too, they don't understand. I wish I was there to support you.

      "I, even I, am he who comforts you.
       Who are you that you should be afraid
       Of a man who will die,
       And of the son of man who will be made like grass?
   
       And you forget the Lord your Maker,
       Who stretched out the heavens
       And laid out the foundations of the earth;
       You have feared continually every day
       Because of the fury of the oppressor,
       When he has prepared to destroy
       And where is the fury of the oppressor?

       Isaiah 51 12:13             Satan destroys the ones we love.

     My heart goes out to you.  May God give you relieve from your stuggles.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God."

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 10:11:13 PM »
I would like to echo the good words of Joshuaa. To hear of another child of God suffering in pain grieves all of our souls. Please do not think that you cannot reach out to someone and share with them your struggles. I am sure everyone here wants to help you. You are never alone. From the meditations of St. Ephraim the Syrian, the Lyre of the Holy Spirit, I can share with you what has helped me in times of despair, in hope that the saint's words will reach you now:

Do not lose heart, O soul, do not grieve;
Pronounce not over thyself a final judgment for the multitude of thy sins;
Do not commit thyself to the fire; do not say: The Lord has cast me from His face.

Such words are not pleasing to God. Can it be that he who has fallen cannot get up? Can it be that he who has turned away cannot turn back again? Dost thou not hear how kind the Father is to a prodigal?

Do not be ashamed to turn back and say boldly: I will arise and go to my Father. Arise and go!

He will accept thee and will not reproach thee, but rather rejoice at thy return. He awaits thee; just do not be ashamed and do not hide from the face of God as did Adam.

It was for thy sake that Christ was crucified; so will He cast thee aside? He knows who oppresses us. He knows that we have no other help but Him alone.

Christ knows that man is miserable. Do not give thyself up to despair and apathy, assuming that thou hast been prepared for the fire. Christ derives no consolation from thrusting us into the fire; He gains nothing if He sends us into the abyss to be tormented.

Imitate the prodigal son; leave the city that starves thee. Come and beseech Him and thou shalt behold the glory of God. Thy face shall be enlightened and thou wilt rejoice in the sweetness of paradise. Glory to the Lord and Lover of mankind who saves us!


God be with you. He really does love you.  :)

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Re: seriously considering it.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 10:16:28 PM »
Hello GODlovesme,
I hope all is well and that you are feeling better,
sometimes letting people know how you feel is a way to get a relief and a peace of mind. But most importantly let God know how you feel-

"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28 -30


Committing suicide is not a solution to an issue that God is capable of handling, please get whats in your heart out to God and someone who can be trusted so you can live the life God has planned for you.

You are GOD's beloved no matter what anyone may say or the world might say,cause we are living for the Heavenly Kingdom not the worldly.
Be strong-cause if God is with you who can be against you.

Here is a  sermon that might help:

http://orthodoxsermons.org/sermons/finding-joy-part-1

Your sister in Christ,
May the prayers of those who pleased God from the beginning be with us all AMEN

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 10:51:36 PM »
As long as you are still breathing, there is still a chance.

Once you decide to cut that breath, you cut every chance of hope.

I don't care how bad your life is, you are still an individual created by God Himself...and you have a purpose in this life. You have a role to play in this world, and you can't just give up. You have so much to live for, and you don't even know it.

Christ died...so that you don't have to.

If you choose to cut short your life which God gave you, you lose every chance of living forever with God Himself.

You have one life that is given to you. Make the most out of it.

Whatever situation you are in, it will pass. Nothing lasts forever.

Hang in there, life will get better...trust me it always passes.

Don't you want to see what your life will be like in 20 years? Don't you want to see your kids? Your grandkids? Your spouse?

Don't give up. Think of the endless pain your loved ones will have to live with. You'll torture them, and you'll make them hate themselves for the rest of their lives.

Find your purpose in life. Ask God to guide you through this struggle.

Life is short enough. People die in famines, and in wars, and from all types of diseases. And you want to throw away your precious life.

Please contact your Father of confession, or the Priest at your local Church ASAP and tell him how you feel. You won't be the first person to share that with him either. 

Cry out to the Lord with all your heart. Pray with tears to the One Who suffered for our sake. Pray to Him and say "Lord Help!" as if you were drowning, and He will hear His precious child. He will give comfort to the one He made with His own hands.

"In the multitude of my anxieties within me, Your comforts delight my soul."
(Psalm 94:19)

Killing yourself and throwing away it all way isn't worth it...period. Live the life that you have, and be thankful for it. Because as bad as it may be, you still have ten fingers and you're still breathing.

(Private message me if you want to talk)

May God give you His peace and grant you His grace and abundance for the rest of your life.

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Re: seriously considering it.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2011, 11:56:58 PM »
I am seriously considering suicide. I have many internal issues that I can't discuss with anyone that I have been struggling with and I really can't handle it anymore. Please pray for me.

Why can't you discuss anything with anyone? We are always here. We don't know what your real identity is so you don't need to be embarassed, all we know you as is our brother GodLovesMe. Even when you tell us about your problems, i assure you that we won't look at you in another way, but we will give you advice because when we give you advice, we all learn from it not just the person with the problem. May God be with you and please be more open to discuss your issues here on this forum.

May God's peace be with you always.

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 02:13:25 AM »
DON'T DO IT
Je p[oic cwoun `m vmwit `nte ni ;myi
Ouoh vmwit `nte ni `acebyc fnatako

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 04:50:01 PM »
Unworthy1,
That's the sad thing about me. I can give advice but when it comes time to follow it, I can't...one of the reasons I stopped posting on this site in the first place. The video is still nice though, I forgot that I had seen that. Thank you for the reminder and please pray for me, I need it.

Joshuaa,
I have really complicated internal issues; I seem to be okay to people on the outside but when they get to know me really well or we discuss any one of my internal issues, they tend to think that I'm extremely weird and kind of avoid me after (mainly because they can't understand what I'm trying to say), I speak from experience...therefore, I have begun to keep my issues to myself. I don't even know how I'm going to explain what I'm going through right now to my FOC. It involves many factors and a lot of different emotions (#1 being extreme self-hatred) due to some situations that happened recently. I'm afraid of being rejected...it's happened way too many times already and it hurts A LOT. Some people just don't understand and can't handle certain things. Thank you so much for your care and support. I appreciate it. And thank you for the verse, it was really nice...I didn't even know it existed in the Bible. Please pray for me a lot.

dzheremi,
I've already tried speaking to people about this in the past. In the past, people didn't have time...others can't understand what I'm saying, some just don't care...how shall I say this? I'm a really interesting personality, it's really hard to be close to me and sometimes it gets to a point where it's also really hard to care about me...this time, it's really complicated, like I said, I don't even know how I'm going to explain it to my FOC. Thank you so much for that quote. That actually helped me a lot as did the other verses people posted. Please pray for me a lot.

Thanks be to God Always,
I sincerely hope I start feeling better soon...there's several occasions in which I seriously considered suicide, this being one of them, and they seem to get worse each time...thank you for the sermon, I will check it out. Please pray for me.

+TheGodChrist+,
Thank you for your kind words. I'm not really sure why God created me actually...I'm pretty useless. That's the only thing that's keeping me from committing suicide...perhaps through some crazy chance, I might have a chance of going to heaven...crazy but perhaps...I doubt my life will get better, it seems to only get worse...in certain aspects of my life, I've already lost complete hope. My loved ones won't suffer if I die...no one will...a lot of people will be much happier actually...it would save them a lot of trouble. You're right though...I should be thankful for what I have. Thank you.

geomike,
I stated above why I can't discuss it with anyone. All I can say is that I hate myself right now...that's what led me to consider suicide. It's too complicated to explain why I hate myself but I do...thanks for your support though. I appreciate it.

Aegyptian,
Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 05:06:47 PM »
Sometimes, it's not that people don't care but they are dealing with a slew of family issues like trying to keep multiple family members alive as they are struggling with extreme diseases.

Your sign-on name underscores, at the minimum, an acknowledgement.
Let us pray fervently for our Holy Father:  Pope Shenouda III; the Lord preserve his life for many peaceful years and cast his enemies and the enemies of the Church under his feet.

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 05:45:46 PM »
Hey man, I'm like you.

I hate myself a lot!!! Is this good, no, not at all haha. We, you and I both, have to get out of this SIN (thats what it is)!
Why do you feel such hatred, why are you so afraid of rejection. PM me with anything on Earth you want to say; trust me, with matters of internal affairs I feel like I'm pretty up there :P

Regardless, realize, brother, that no matter what you do, God loves you. No matter what sin you commit, God has conceived a plan for you to follow to live a joyous life with Him in it! "We work FROM grace, not for it!!" NOTHING we can do can please God; thats releiving, isnt it? Stop being so harsh on yourself; GOD doesn't punish you as much as you punish yourself.

We are told at an early age to "love our neighbors as ourselves". We take this the wrong way, sadly. We show all the love to our neighbors, and not nearly enough to ourselves. I believe the commandment said AS ourselves, not greater, nor less than.

God is working within you; this will become a time of great prosperity for you if you can pull through. Just realize, that no matter what happens, no matter what failure comes, tomorrow brings a new day, and a new chance. We fail if we stay down, but we suceed if we try; it is just a matter of time.

God Bless You!

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 07:00:20 PM »
FYI everyone: Godlovesme is female  ;)

Dear GLM,

We all give advice that we don't follow. We are all hypocrites. Take a look at my posts! If I followed half of them, you might chant my name in the glorifications soon, lol. But we all fall short. It's not a surprise to God and it shouldn't be to you.

Know this: You are precious in the eyes of our Lord.

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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 07:40:29 PM »
Why is her sex relevant o.O?

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2011, 07:57:14 PM »
Why is her sex relevant o.O?

Well, I didn't want to call you out but let's look at your post. . .

Quote from: liftmyheart
Hey man, I'm like you.

I hate myself a lot!!! Is this good, no, not at all haha. We, you and I both, have to get out of this SIN (thats what it is)!
Why do you feel such hatred, why are you so afraid of rejection. PM me with anything on Earth you want to say; trust me, with matters of internal affairs I feel like I'm pretty up there

Regardless, realize, brother, that no matter what you do, God loves you. No matter what sin you commit, God has conceived a plan for you to follow to live a joyous life with Him in it! "We work FROM grace, not for it!!" NOTHING we can do can please God; thats releiving, isnt it? Stop being so harsh on yourself; GOD doesn't punish you as much as you punish yourself.

We are told at an early age to "love our neighbors as ourselves". We take this the wrong way, sadly. We show all the love to our neighbors, and not nearly enough to ourselves. I believe the commandment said AS ourselves, not greater, nor less than.

God is working within you; this will become a time of great prosperity for you if you can pull through. Just realize, that no matter what happens, no matter what failure comes, tomorrow brings a new day, and a new chance. We fail if we stay down, but we suceed if we try; it is just a matter of time.

God Bless You!
(emphasis mine)

That's why it's relevant.
Love Never Fails
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2011, 08:11:25 PM »
well then WOAHman* and sister*, the rest still applies. :)!

 



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