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  • This is actually being taught in many churches. The standard response is always east for the readings in coptic as they are chanted prayer and west to the people when reading translations. I honestly don't know the real answer but I have seen the sa…
  • In regards to Alle al korban vs Apinav shopi I truly believe the teaching that exists are pure opinions of modern cantors and not handed down. Alle al korban is the hymn of alleluia prior to the psalm that is said after the offertory and in my view …
  • The standard teaching for the Nativity, St Mary and the Apostles' fasts is Tishori Monday-Friday and Tai shori Sat-Sun.
  • I beg to differ. I have heard recordings from all the cantors you mention apart from Habib Elmirahim and they are not the same. The differences seem to be in pauses and transitions for example in 'ehoou' where some elongate on the first letter 'e' a…
  • I agree with @minatasgeel to an extent. We must remember that our hymns are handed down orally and sometimes the person learning may not pick up every single hezaat but that does not mean they do not know the hymn it is simply that persons' ability …
  • I could provide numerous answers to the above but I will restrict myself. However I will say that the coptic church no longer considers Sts Peter & Paul as the "head" of the Apostles and the Synod even changed this line in the fraction prayer ma…
  • Now back to the question I have heard many times that Asomen is for Pentecost and the Apostles fast but not to be said on the feast. Nobody and I mean absolutely nobody can give a logical explanation. This practice is definitely not followed by the …
  • For the sake of clarity when you say Bishop Mettaous' book which book are you talking about exactly? Is it the book titled "Daleel altoukos alkaneesa ala madar alsana altoutia"? If so it is worth noting that the book was actually written by two monk…
  • Thanks for this Ramez that's actually what we did. Do you have a link or source for the decision? I have to be honest although Albeir writes a lot of the decisions in his Deacons service book, having spoken to many Bishops they have never heard of …
  • Tigalilia is said during vespers praise of Kiahk and Lent and there is an equivalent hymn for each of the Batos days. The Didymus institute teaches that it is not chanted in midnight praises. Also it is chanted during the procession on the feasts …
  • Next time you are in London let me know it would be good to put a face to the name.
  • As I say in the absence of one official teaching it is left open to the interpretation of clergy and cantors which is what will continue until the issue is resolved. Out of interest which church do you serve in Ophadece?
  • Ophadece I fully understand the impoetance of the Resurrection to the extent that it is a constant feast rather than a one off event. That is to say Christ entered Egypt as a one off historical event but we continue to live in the resurrection. Howe…
  • I'm sure that Ibrahim Ayad released his recording in 2000 for the major celebration and described how you add the responses after the resurrection. In regards to feasts necessary for salvation again this is a moot point in regards to terminology a…
  • I was talking to Cantor Reda Barsoum in Cairo about this yesterday and the teaching agreed upon by Cantor Gad Lewis is that the readings remain the 6th Sunday of Pentecost and at most they would add the verses of the cymbals, doxology and praxis res…
  • The Antiphonarium are praises and commentaries for the Saints of the day and follow the same calendar as the Synaxarium. On Lordly feasts including the whole Resurrection period there is no reading of either. During Saturday vesper praises (before v…
    in Nim ghar? Comment by drewhalim May 2014
  • @ophadece And that my dear friend is where you assume incorrectly. I used to spend many months in Cairo every single year without fail since I was born. I was taught by Cantors of Churches in Cairo and part of what I learnt from them is that they a…
  • There are Psalis before each hos and there is even an introduction with Psalms at the beginning with the hymn Alleluia and and the same tune as the Kiahk Hos. The issue in the Coptic Church is the lack of clarity in books. Many will use the title of…
  • The teaching as I have said before is that Piepnevma is not chanted during any church services whatsoever from Resurrection until after Vespers for Pentecost. I have never seen any rite where the hymn is chanted during the Lakkan services or baptism…
  • I knew cantors who attended and also at the time the videos were all over the net including coptichymns.net.
  • The Didymus Institute in Cairo and the Clerical college teach that the Hymn of Piepnevma is not chanted during any church service from Easter until after vespers for the Feast of Pentecost. Instead a Resurrection hymn from the procession may be chan…
  • I've been told by a choir member of the choir that appears on MESat with Muallim Gad Lewis and Reda Barsoum that they have recorded the whole hymn in its entirety. The Choir have taken the name of Cantor Mikhail Girgis El Batanouny and all their sou…
  • That recording sounds a lot like Fr Asheya El Muharaqi to me but I could be wrong.
  • I accept that Holy Week services are in effect continuous but I have always been taught that if a church service is completed and people are dismissed then all books are closed. If a book is not in use then there is no need for it to remain open.
  • I think it is all too easy to say that whenever we receive communion we must be joyful and praise God. Chanting Psalm 150 is not the only method of praising God and praying the 11th hour from the Pascha is still to be considered praise. As far as …
  • Yes we did this one year but again many people just left after the liturgy. Well now the rite is restored I suppose any issues are sorted.
  • We used to say the 11th of Thursday before the Lakkan because the priests felt that the evening service was already long enough.
  • Here is a link to an image of a document issue by the Holy Synod Secretariat which confirms the restoration of the Palm Sunday and Covenant Thursday rituals along with other points discussed at the Synod meeting of November 2013. It is only in Arabi…
  • For the sake of clarity the are no spiritual hymns (teraneem) in the official rites of Good Friday or any other church service. Any hymns that are chanted are with the agreement of the priest of the church and there are many churches for example tha…
  • According to a few bishops I spoke to the rite was researched thoroughly before the suggestion was submitted to the Synod to restore the original rite. I cannot see what is wrong with it. It is merely a tradition of a funeral service to replace any …