No. He was threatened, but never excommunicated. And that's besides the point: the point is, the church's faith and theology is heading in a dangerous direction.
Agape,
I call this a very silly discussion.
In Isaiah's vision and in the Apocalypse, the Trisagion was said only once. That is why the Church Fathers interpreted Isaiah's vision in light of St. John's vision chanting that single Trisagion to Jesu…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=69.msg158348#msg158348 date=1343769162]
The word used is not Latria, it is ouwst which means both "worship" and "bow down in reverence" in Coptic. I will say the author (not Evodius) takes a Catholic co-redemptix,…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=69.msg158320#msg158320 date=1343737581]
I will keep repeating this, the Church never recognized this forged sermon. The whole argument about St. Mary's resurrection is based on this sermon.
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To say that the…
"Allow me to praise You, O Most Holy Virgin; give me strength against your enemies."
What makes you think that the Lord did not descend to take up the body and soul of the Virgin Mary into heaven? There's no contradiction here with 1 Thess. 4:16, t…
"Allow me to praise You, O Most Holy Virgin; give me strength against your enemies."
imikhail, do you realize that your objections to the Assumption of the Virgin Mary, in body and soul, based on two quotes from Scripture is precisely the objection…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13549.msg157985#msg157985 date=1343009702]
I'd like to point out that Raphael Tuki is Coptic Catholic, not Coptic Orthodox. If you look at the last page, right after he gives the verse about King Constantine, you'll…
Agape,
The Philokalia is promoted in ALL churches. It serves as a very important spiritual guide and explains the theological foundations of orthodox spiritual beliefs and concepts, especially against gnostic and psuedo-spiritual guides of the past…
Ya 3amo imakhail,
Even the Arians were not "rebaptized" or "reordained." All they had to do was make a confession of the faith (i.e. recite the Nicene Creed) to be members of the Orthodox Church. The very obvious case in Church history is that of t…
"As the Lord, putting on the body, became man, so we men are deified by the Word as being taken to Him through His flesh, and henceforward inherit life everlasting." (St. Athanasius, Against the Arians, 3:34).
"No one knows the exact date of Christ's Resurrection"
What do you mean? It was certainly after the Jewish Passover, which had to be on the 14th day of the month of Nissan.
I am claiming that the WHOLE Coptic calendar needs to be updated. The Gre…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13080.msg153790#msg153790 date=1332886050]
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=13080.msg153767#msg153767 date=1332875323]
The calendar itself is not of value, the importance which the Fathers especially felt was t…
[quote author=Stavro link=topic=13042.msg153386#msg153386 date=1332281225]
It is a catholic site. They do not consider Pope Shenouda a Pope, for the Catholics have only one Pope. They would not have so much problem with the title bishop or priest.
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"Look on my right hand and see—there is no one who takes notice of me; no refuge remains to me; no one cares for me" (Psalm 142:4).
Lord, have mercy!
I'm am appalled by the majority of the reactions here to our brother Gabriel. The reactions here…
Agape,
Envy harms the person who is envious, and not the one being envied.
In the thanksgiving prayer, the envy we ask to be protected from is that of the devil, which can harm us (Wisdom of Solomon 2:24), but not of other people, which cannot ha…
"If I have rejected the cause of my male or female slaves,
when they brought a complaint against me;
what then shall I do when God rises up?
When he makes inquiry, what shall I answer him?
Did not he who made me in the womb make them?
And…
Agape,
Getting into science does not resolve the issues of faith and atheism. It's just a distraction from the arguments that SHOULD be discussed when dealing with atheism. So, scientific debates aside, the central problem with atheism is a lack of…
Agape,
I'm sure when you meet people, you shake hands with your right hand and not the left, correct? If you put forward your left hand, the other person might interpret that as being impolite. Interestingly, you'll find that shaking with the right…
Agape,
That is what I call a big show done in vain. What's the use of singing something that needs to explained to baptized Christians in the church, while those in public have no idea what they are wearing, what they are singing, and why they are …
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12724.msg149546#msg149546 date=1324999840]
I don't agree.
To deny the consciousness of the souls of the departed is not Orthodox.
To suggest that there is no immortal soul is not Orthodox.
To suggest that the…
As I said, the authors you are quoting are following the Alexandrian/Egyptian monastic stream of thought that was influenced by Platonism. If you were to look at the authors who were in a different school of thought not influenced by Greek philosoph…
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12724.msg149537#msg149537 date=1324941823]
This is surely and universally the teaching of the Church.
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Forgive me, father, but I don't agree.
If one were to go to the writings of the Fathers, you will …
Agape,
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. I did state that those who departed are living in Christ. This does not mean, in my opinion, that a soul that used to be in a body now moved on to live with Christ. All we say is that the person who departed …
Not to take the discussion off topic, but there is much evidence to believe that toll houses are in fact real, and that the spirit of a person does indeed go through angels and/or demons before reaching Paradise or Hades.
No, they're not "fact" and…