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  • @titl, I thought you were referring to those songs sung during communion. Another thread about the conference deciding on new changes along with charismatic worship oujai khan ebshois
  • @Remenkimi, absolutely right, my mistake.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Charismatic is the term, and @titl you can refer to the other thread on that.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Because people like emotionally enthusiastic songs over boring Coptic notes oujai khan ebshois
  • Yes but soul in Coptic, nafs in Arabic is beseka from the pharaonic ka.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Sorry for my unlearned response of spirit and ghost. Maybe Americans tend to use the latter more than the Brits, but I was born in Egypt before I came to the UK so those subtle English discrepancies are not my field.. oujai khan ebshois
  • @minasoliman, as @Remenkimi pointed out edfa and nifawi spell with a fi but benifi with a fai.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Yes, nifi is the Coptic word for spirit, breath and wind. However the Copts have decided to abandon usage of the word due to its association with pagan practices and used ebnawma instead. Albeit with a bit of difference, akin to the church's dislike…
  • Yes as @Remenkimi said, dwrea, or gift means taio and that's a masculine word so it uses be. oujai khan ebshois
  • Love in Coptic is matmai and that's a feminine word so the article to be used is di. mateshbar is friendship and matareshbar is participation or communing. I need to look up dwrea, and get back to you.. it doesn't work to try to translate Coptic exp…
  • I have it, please contact me on my email: ophadece@hotmail.com and I will send it to you.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Remnkemi,Please don't misunderstand what I will say, but while I very much respect your deductions, they are not any thing more. Acts response is Adam. To fit the watos verses of the martyrs and St. Mark is wrong, but has become unfortunately …
  • Ekhrestos anesty@dg920, (and to some extent @drewhalim),There is no such a thing as borrowing verses from different hymns. The verses you are talking about are just verses that happen to be set to different tunes, because they have important spiritu…
  • Ekhrestos anesty Thanks @minasoliman.. I hope I too have a chance to read it one day.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @minasoliman Are you referring your last reply to me? I am not sure I understand what you are talking about Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @drewhalim Thanks for that piece of information although despite sounding bad I wouldn't have been gravely surprised if the decree came out in 97! Anyway the last few years saw many decrees because we are becoming more and more fed …
  • Ekhrestos anesty @drewhalim do you mean 8? Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty,@meenasamy, I had the opportunity to listen to the link you posted for the first time today. Where did you get that from? This is a mix between cantor Zaher's style (which I was told from cantor Towfik) and sharat farayhy, and other…
  • Ekrestos anestyAnother thing with regards the grammar of that doxology. I don't know when or who composed it, but what ebarshiaraws? why eb and not be?Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty, thank you very much dear @minatasgeel. I hope you didn't record that with your voice. I am not impressed with the person who doesn't know how to read Coptic and I am not talking about authentic Bohairic or the use of p or such like…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, @Dann100, The best way of course is to ask someone to teach you. It may not be wise to read using the transliteration.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty thank you dear @purity2 oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @dg920, I'm sorry man you got offended that much.. forgive me again.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @dg920, I cannot agree more with all what you said and that's why I don't think it's correct to call cantor Ibrahim the most meticulous, or the like. Also forgive me if I say that as @drewhalim said before some people take live reco…
  • Ekhrestos anesty @Christ_rose, You are asking specifically about cantor Ibrahim, please listen to his recordings of the seven tunes for nativity and Easter. Also allelujah bai ba old and recent. The latter being more of a dialect thing. Also please …
  • Ekhrestos anesty @Remnkemi, Please note that I don't object to what you said but cantor Ibrahim among others is blamed for constantly embellishing the so-called educational tapes and cd's. Cantors should be more meticulous and have some integrity, l…
  • Ekhrestos anesty @qawe, I don't think Coptic reader is a good reference. It's good enough don't get me wrong but it's actually not devoid of mistakes either and basic ones I might add.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @dg920, cantor Ibrahim won't lose credibility making something up. The percentage of people who understand and debate is minute compared to the large majority who just follow blindly and copy whatever some cantors do. I totally agre…
  • Dear @minatasgeel, how much does one take Wikipedia to be scientific evidence for anything? I guess @Remnkemi already replied.. Dear @Remnkemi, what reform did the authentic Coptic need? That was only the view of one person who was supported by high…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, dear all, I am so glad that this website gives us an opportunity to debate things logically and scientifically, so may I ask everyone to stop using the abbreviation OB? oujai khan ebshois