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  • Ekhrestos anesty @drewhalim do you mean 8? Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty,@meenasamy, I had the opportunity to listen to the link you posted for the first time today. Where did you get that from? This is a mix between cantor Zaher's style (which I was told from cantor Towfik) and sharat farayhy, and other…
  • Ekrestos anestyAnother thing with regards the grammar of that doxology. I don't know when or who composed it, but what ebarshiaraws? why eb and not be?Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty, thank you very much dear @minatasgeel. I hope you didn't record that with your voice. I am not impressed with the person who doesn't know how to read Coptic and I am not talking about authentic Bohairic or the use of p or such like…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, @Dann100, The best way of course is to ask someone to teach you. It may not be wise to read using the transliteration.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty thank you dear @purity2 oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @dg920, I'm sorry man you got offended that much.. forgive me again.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @dg920, I cannot agree more with all what you said and that's why I don't think it's correct to call cantor Ibrahim the most meticulous, or the like. Also forgive me if I say that as @drewhalim said before some people take live reco…
  • Ekhrestos anesty @Christ_rose, You are asking specifically about cantor Ibrahim, please listen to his recordings of the seven tunes for nativity and Easter. Also allelujah bai ba old and recent. The latter being more of a dialect thing. Also please …
  • Ekhrestos anesty @Remnkemi, Please note that I don't object to what you said but cantor Ibrahim among others is blamed for constantly embellishing the so-called educational tapes and cd's. Cantors should be more meticulous and have some integrity, l…
  • Ekhrestos anesty @qawe, I don't think Coptic reader is a good reference. It's good enough don't get me wrong but it's actually not devoid of mistakes either and basic ones I might add.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @dg920, cantor Ibrahim won't lose credibility making something up. The percentage of people who understand and debate is minute compared to the large majority who just follow blindly and copy whatever some cantors do. I totally agre…
  • Dear @minatasgeel, how much does one take Wikipedia to be scientific evidence for anything? I guess @Remnkemi already replied.. Dear @Remnkemi, what reform did the authentic Coptic need? That was only the view of one person who was supported by high…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, dear all, I am so glad that this website gives us an opportunity to debate things logically and scientifically, so may I ask everyone to stop using the abbreviation OB? oujai khan ebshois
  • @Remnkemi, so you are suggesting opening up new churches for authentic Bohairic? So now gb and authentic Bohairic being two different dialects are being treated by you as two separate languages? That's really interesting.. oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Remenkimi, you try your best to back up your arguments and I did say before you were the expert in this. Thank you for increasing my general knowledge but that's not the point of the thread. oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Remenkimi, why do you have to put a spin on things and act like you don't understand my point when you are the expert in this more than anyone else. Ok, for the last time and only for you dear I am talking about dialects and accents and all th…
  • @minatasgeel and @Remenkimi, the synod or any kind of organisational body cannot make any form of decrees or mere decisions about a language pronunciation FULL STOP. Oops @Remenkimi you did say that too, didn't you? @dg920, you are absolutely right.…
  • Ekhrestos anesty Dear @eshpheri, picking up where you left off: unfortunately the diversity is false, so to me it cannot be a reason for celebration. secondly, I am not sure if you are dealing only with Greek origin and relationship to Coptic liturg…
  • Perhaps but probably more of a struggle with the g or j sound in the first place that got replaced by a d. oujai khan ebshois
  • A man from upper Egypt would pronounce I bring as ajeeb rather than d. Oujai khan ebshois
  • No comment whatsoever. Waiting for the day that the American church authority stamps out any other British, Australian, south African, or broken English accents to the American composed Christian songs? And yes of course a language is an entity that…
  • @Remenkimi, Thanks very much for your comments and explanation on different aspects of modernisation in the church. can you now see how big tv screens, laptops, iPad and the like, and HDMI connections are doing to the liturgy and the Church? oujai k…
  • @Wael_Saad I am the one who commented on Facebook saying the grammar of this sentence needs refining. I hope you would do it as soon as you can Oujai khan ebshois
  • @Wael_Saad Please note that the Coptic you provided above doesn't match the English or Arabic translations.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Well @Cyril there is no harm in you expressing your opinion that long hymns prevent the understanding of theosis and that the faithful rarely attend the relevant parts, and so more emphasis should be drawn probably by changing the current practice..…
  • @Cyril I think Remenkimi brought evidence before about Coptic hymns talking about theosis. I have some examples too.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Based on prior discussions on the forum I have understood that agbeya prayers started to recently receive more emphasis than was the case previously. Can someone please explain to me how this came about? oujai khan ebshois
  • Are the verses of cymbals as old as the 15 century? I never thought so, or the verbal handing down was rather inefficient! oujai khan ebshois
  • Guys I am so sorry I have been reading your helpful comments but I need a computer to reply thoroughly. I'll do that hopefully tomorrow.. oujai khan ebshois