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  • Time constraints of this generation? Why? Ah, because people entering the church don't really feel the presence of God and the heavenly but can't forget the earthly desires and commitments Oujai khan ebshois
  • @minatasgeel, I thought that was uncannonical.. I thought abakran or the like is only allowed but not even akseya or any glorification hymns! Right? Oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Remnkemi, Are they to be said during the liturgy of the word? And if so when? Oujai khan ebshois
  • @minatasgeel, There is no such a thing as watos AND/OR Adam tune. It's either this or that. Atba bai is borrowed from a Bekhrestos bannoudi for resurrection an Adam tune.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • @minatasgeel, You don't believe in that but it is the whole point of differentiation. Also it borrows verses from Adam hymns too.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • @minatasgeel, Counting the syllables it is more of an Adam tune than a watos one.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • @minatasgeel, I never heard of such a book. To me it sounds Adam not watos.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @minatasgeel, Who said shiwaini was a watos tune? Oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Daniel_Kyrillos, In in Coptic is khan and before is embamto. Nja means that is. You had better say aribamawi khan ebshois Oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Daniel_Kyrillos, I am interested in knowing what your Coptic signature means.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Nope.. Besho could be "the sand", "the thousand", but not low. I believe he may have been joking.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty I have already mentioned Good Friday hymns above. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty I'm afraid I have to leave the main argument and comment on the practice many churches are now resorting to. Dear @minasoliman we are not being active using those projectors to show translations, hazzat, contemplations or any such …
  • Ekhrestos anesty I'm not sure if you could appreciate my argument. Teaching the children is only one tenth of the answer.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty, Dear @minasoliman, How will the congregation learn to pray through singing the melismata, and how long will that take? I hope you are not suggesting that we stop singing meghalo or sad tune dishoria, or indeed baketronos until the…
  • Ekhrestos anesty Dear @Lovejoypeace_ This is taken as a prophecy from one of the psalms.. That melody has other grave flaws anyway.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Dear @Remnkemi, Thank you very much.. Very well said. However I for one would "advocate singing or praising without understanding or offering a poor quality sacrifice of praise" quoting your statement, as long as my aim is to strive for understandi…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, @minatasgeel, He didn't talk about melismata, did he? Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @minasoliman, Thanks for sharing this clip. As I said before I agree with the principle but not with that style. That is completely westernised and I am not sure if that's what the above debate was about because I didn't listen to a…
  • Ekhrestos anesty @minasafwat, You certainly did understand but our ears pick things up differently then.. that's OK. I believe he makes a good point and it does make perfect sense to me.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty @minasafwat, I completely disagree. Please listen to baketronos on this website by HICS. Not untastable in the slightest and the closing of the mouth only occurs in a small part, that is the h of allelujah. I'm sorry I don't have Co…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, @Remnkemi,You are asking if my opinion is to bring back OB (moot point, as it is already back), because it is "best"? My answer is, it is not about being good, better, or best; only that it should be based on scientific evidence. I…
  • Ekhrestos anesty @minatasgeel, So Erian Moftah did it based on an opinion, and correcting the flaw will now be incorrect as it abolishes the dynamism of language change? Seriously? Am I missing something? Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty Dear @Remnkemi, What people say about Erian Moftah and authentic Bohairic is not based on opinion. Indeed it's the reverse.. Oujai khan ebshois
  • Ekhrestos anesty, Dear @kataNikhoros, Don't get me wrong in what I am going to say. I also very much like the HICS over any other recording but unfortunately they also are culprits in defiling some authentic tunes by virtue of giving way to the flaw…
  • Ekhrestos anesty, I agree with what this guy had said 400%; indeed he concurs with Ragheb Moftah, the latter actually pointed this out in one of his introductions and elaborated that the larynx is the best musical instrument. However, I think that's…
  • Dear @Remnkemi,It seems you have a different version than the Bibles I have. Anyway, first things first: Lk 5:21  According to David Wilkins, G Horner (Bohairic), Habib Guirguis, Mr. Bassem Soliman's website, Warren Wells Bohairic collection, anothe…
  • Dear @Remnkemi, With all due respect to the coptologists and scientists you quoted, they are wrong. I don't know about Sa'idic but in Bohairic that is wrong. Please note that the Bible in Coptic was transferred to computer format by lay people, so m…
  • Dear @baempi, Please refer me to those Biblical references he links. Or even give me a snapshot of those two pages to be able to comment. I actually perused the first four chapters of the BOOK of Leviticus and couldn't find anything you were referri…
  • @minatasgeel, Here we should agree to disagree. There is no excuse for people to pray without understanding. Those cantors have a greater burden in being role examples to the rest of the church. I have lived 28 years in Egypt and I attended some of …