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Nim ghar?
  • I'm just curious, is Nim ghar said on every Sunday from the Resurrection until the end of Hatoor? What if it was the Feast of the Cross? Would it be said with je av-ashk?
  • It is said from the beginning of the Holy fifty days till the last Sunday of Hatoor and it always ends with je-aktonk
  • So is that ak-tonk for both the end of the 16th and the 18th part? So the whole Feast of the Cross tasbeha (on a Sunday) would be av-ashk, except for these two instances?
  • Both parts are ak-tonk and yes everywhere else (outside this hymn) would be av-ashk. This makes sense since Nim ghar is strictly speaking of the resurrection. Feel free to double check with coptic reader too...it can help if you have questions like these
  • Nim ghar is said everyday during the holy fifties. Only Sundays afterwards till the end of Hatoor..
    Ekhrestos anesty
    Oujai
  • Does that include Batos days? For example, should we be saying it before the Antiphonarium in tomorrows Vespers Praise?
  • Yes but only in the Midnight praises. By the way, the Antiphonarium (along with the Synaxarium) are not to be chanted (read) during the Holy Fifty days. 
  • Who said you're not supposed to chant the Antiphonarium in the holy fifty days? Anba Youssef prayed from it during a Midnight Praise we prayed with him last year during the Holy Fifty days.

    What is the reason for leaving it out? It does sort of make sense to treat the Antiphonarium like you would the Synexarium, but why do we do that. Maybe we're only supposed to read the Antiphonarium readings that match with the Readings of the Katamerous of the Holy Fifty, and not read the ones that depend on the day of the month (which is all saints)?
  • The Antiphonarium are praises and commentaries for the Saints of the day and follow the same calendar as the Synaxarium. On Lordly feasts including the whole Resurrection period there is no reading of either. During Saturday vesper praises (before vespers for Sunday) there is a commentary to read, one for each week but that is it.
  • @Katanikhoros...yes Anba Youssef says it n his diocese, I KNOW, i was in Texas Abbey for 2 weeks...but when you ask his grace he says you are not really supposed to say it. It goes hand in hand with the senixar.


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