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So you want to learn coptic
  • Does anyone know where I can get this book from or something like this on pdf?

    God Bless
  • I know there are courses given on YouTube.

     

    Well done for making this initiative, by the way! I wish I could learn Coptic also as a language. I find that the Tasbeha is done so fast that I cannot keep up at times.

  • A link would be great to go to youtube. And the tasbeha and hymns is the main reason as to why I would like to learn coptic, I love the coptic hymns and praises but I dont get to understand all of it so a solution would be to learn it!

    God Bless

  • That's very pro-active of you to take it upon yourself to learn this awesome language.

    I'm sure if you typed Learn Coptic in YouTube, you'll get loads of videos. However, I think these videos are there to help you learn how to read Coptic, not really how to understand it as a language.

     

    Good luck!

  • Nice work faithful
    many of us like learning the hymns but we often forget about the beauty of the language starting with myself
    here are a few links u might like to checkout
    PDF's
    youtube
    God bless u on this journey
  • I also just found this
    hopefully its the bok ur talking about
    u will only get the first 58 pages with this link so maybe buying it would be a great idea
  • Thank you guys so much for your help and support, please pray for me! And with the last link I stumbled upon it as well but I was hoping someone could provide a link to buy it within Australia as most of those sites do not have it in stock so maybe any Australians know a good shop around the place or maybe in your bookshop at church that has it?

    God Bless
  • I just saw this post. I have the book, so if you haven't bought it yet and want to ask questions, I'm open. I also have a bunch of other random pdfs with coptic basics.
  • Thats great! Would you mind me asking where did you buy it from, I'm still looking for a place to buy it from (with relatively low shipping! cuase I'm Egyptian born and raised!). It would be great to have a look at the pdfs as well. I was also wandering if anything you had contained a table for the 14 prefixes, sorry I don't know their technical name but for example 1st would be present simple - I = ti You=ek etc. for all 14 tenses it would be terrific if you do!

    God Bless 
  • the people in my church sing the tasbeha so fast that I might as well learn Coptic also just to keep up. Its too fast to even read the translation whilst they are singing in Coptic.

     

  • Zoxsasi, I know! That's one of the reasons I'm learning Coptic. 

    And sure faithful servant. Btw faithful only has one "L", but that's okay :)
    I got the book from iBooks. So if you have any apple product with iBooks, it should work. 
    Here is the link to a page full of random coptic sources: http://suscopts.org/deacons/coptic.shtml
    You seem like you know more than is taught in a lot of the pdfs, but there is also a few dictionaries, and I believe the one by plumely is a source for so you want to learn Coptic".
    Those prefixes are called dependent personal pronouns or just subject prefixes
    They are ti (I), ek (you masc),te (you fem), ef (he), es (she), ten (we), teten (you plural), se (they)
    The subject prefix for you masculine can be either a kei (x looking thing) with a jinkim or a kappa (k looking thing) with a jinkim. This depends on the first letter of the infinitive. If the first letter is one of the vilminor letters, then kei with a jinkim is used. Kappa with a jinkim is used for all other letters. 
    I randomly found this pdf with a tiny but useful portion of the book, which also explains what the vilminor letters are.
    Feel free to ask any questions. Hope that helped

  • Thanks Ifahmy, I realised that after I made the username...oh well!

    God Bless
  • lol... faithful Servant 1; I'd put a $1000 dollar bet that your real name is Sameh Younan. ;)

     

  • Habibi.. if you lower the price of the book to 5 euros, I'll buy one.
  • haha I don't know what the conversion is from euro to USD but it cant be that much... you know what just for you I'll bump it up!


  • That's not fair.. leh keda? Im a nice person.

     

  • hehe If I was Sameh Younan I'd give it to you for free but I'm not sadly... so I guess your gona have to fork out the 17 bucks 

    God Bless
  • @lfahmy how deep does that book go? I understand basic Coptic grammar and can translate some pieces but I want to learn all the strange conjugations and what not and start looking at manuscripts eventually. Should I get this book or something more advanced?
  • @St. Pachom 

    I just bought this book and for me it goes pretty deep and it doesn't seem like its just basic grammar. You can look at the contents page in the google link above.

    God Bless
  • @Faithfulservant1 thanks it looks pretty good!

    P.S. don't use spaces when you tag someone ;)
  • hahaha thanks @St.Pachom
  • what it still didn't work I think the system just doesn't like you!

    Mare `Vnou] `cmou erok

    Oujai qen `P[oic
  • i'm now on lesson 5 of the coptic youth channel you tube videos!

    in only 50 years, i'll understand ophadece...

    eshlil ethveet!

    (pray for me)
  • Pachom
    against the world!

    }sep`hmot `ntotk `Vbok `nte `Fnah] =A 

  • @mabsoota I suggest you download Coptic Fonts. Then at least your coptic will look like his! ;)
  • yeah, will get round to it.
    :-)
    عندي عربي بس

    (i only have arabic)

    coptic fonts for mac are very hard work.
    pachom, what is your signature?
    as i said, i don't know much coptic yet!
  • Pachom, I'm not too sure about the strange conjugations. If you read the other Coptic related discussion, someone commented and mentioned some verbs that maintain weird conjugations. I'm not sure of they're in the book though. I couldn't find any when I looked.
  • The other discussion is thomas pasotp and the commenter was archdeacon
  • Mabsoota, I got Unicode Coptic to work on Mac. PM me if you need help. 

  • @ophadece Where did you learn Coptic? I have some stuff, but where can I become as fluid in the language as I am in English?
  • @lfahmy
    Ekhrestos anesty
    I took lessons in the church when I was 13 or so, and then expanded my knowledge by myself. I'm not fluent or even fluid in Coptic at all, so I cannot really advise you on that one.. haha.. what I'm learning comes mainly from tasbeha and kholagy. I always try to understand fully what I'm saying, or what abouna is saying and not just enjoy the tunes. I also joined remenkimi yahoogroup which unfortunately isn't extremely active these days. From time to time I log on to danacbe.kame.com, but haven't been for a long while..
    Oujai
  • Ekhrestos anesty
    I'm sorry, also forgot to say I have a couple of documents and dictionaries downloaded from the internet, mainly remenkimi.com
    Oujai
  • Ekhrestos anesty
    Sorry again, the website is called kame.danacbe.com..
    Oujai
  • Ekhrestos anesty
    I just downloaded Coptic fonts onto my laptop, and don't understand what you wrote! Would you care to explain?
    I also would like to ask you and every one how do you type Coptic letters onto this forum?
    Oujai
  • Ophadece,

    You need to use Unicode fonts, not legacy Coptic fonts. Unicode fonts specifically designate characters to specific languages. Legacy Coptic fonts, look Coptic, but they are designated English characters. So English fonts that do not have the Coptic subset will come out as boxes or strange looking figures. (Actually, you need to use the same Unicode font that StPachom used (I think it is FreeSeriAvvaShenouda). It works fine at my end)

    What you need to do is (1) get all Unicode Coptic fonts you can find to view Coptic Unicode and (2) setup your computer to input Coptic characters with Unicode fonts. Depending on which operating system, there are different ways to do this.

    Mac: Message me and I'll give you a Mac keyboard and Coptic unicode fonts.
    Windows: Go to www.moheb.de. Download the Coptic Unicode fonts. You'll also want to get Antinoou (used by Coptologists) and New Athena Unicode (which is becoming the standard Unicode Coptic font). I think they might also be on Moheb's site. If not, Google them and you'll find them. 

    For inputing Unicode Coptic in Windows, you have 2 options. One is to get a unicode keyboard software (like Logos or Microsoft Keyboard). This option is easy to setup but quirky to use. The other way, is to set up another language in Windows and attach Moheb's CS keyboard. Since Microsoft Windows doesn't allow you to add a Coptic language to the operating system, you'll have to add another one and fool Windows. I use Cyrillic and add the CS Coptic keyboard to it. Then you add a keyboard code to switch between languages and you're done. It's really not as difficult as it sounds.

    Message me if you need more help.
  • @remenkimi,
    Ekhrestos anesty
    I'll definitely need help. I do think I already have the fonts but I'll check again and ask you if I get stuck.. thanks a lot anyway, and wish me luck.. hehe
    oujai
  • @remnkimi and @ophadece. I have a "plain" CS Avva Shenouda font but i need someone to help to built opentype on that font. The issue is that the abbreviation mark and the jinkum are positioned perfect ont he top of any letter when it's place before and not after, which goes against unicode rules. opentype will allow us to position the marks separately on each letter.
     
  • Find a pdf copy of the book in here under,
    Sources;
    Advanced sources;
    Textbook;


    You can print it and make the binding in a stationary on your own.
  • Thanks so much
    This site has so many wonderful resources 
    God Bless

  • It is a Skydrive folder that I have created.
    So, if you have a source you want to share with everyone, please send it to me on:

    bishoyboshra@yahoo.com
    bishoyboshra@aucegypt.edu
  • @Bishoy_Labib
    I honestly cried when I saw all the lectures from Macquarie University.

  • Why is that? What is wrong about the lectures?
  • I cried because they're so awesome! Haha
    Tears of joy, man.


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