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  • Hello,

    I just thought I'd create a topic to share musci links of your favourite/newly-discovered music

    So to start off:

  • [quote author=mnc_hnn link=topic=13977.msg161694#msg161694 date=1354658408]
    So to start off:

    [/quote]
    Nice music. Copts singing in video?
  • yes :)

    The song says (Excuse my poor translation skills):


    God is with us

    He’s never let go of our hands
    He is attentive of us and our problems
    We are engraved on the palm of His hand (in good and bad times)

    All the goodness we have comes from Him alone
    Only His protection gave us rest
    Problems resolved as soon as the heart calls on him

    All the goodness we have comes from Him alone
    Only His protection gave us rest
    Whenever anyone is in trouble, they find Him.

    God is with us
    Nobody can think about approaching a congregation protected by Jesus
    Go is with us
    What can trouble someone who laid their burden on Him

    God is with us
    Why worry about tomorrow, He will surely take care of it
    God is with us
    All the past and memories witness that He is not far.

    God is with us
    Whatever happens, He can protect his congregation from the beasts
    God is with us
    With His hands our joy will arrive, so you mustn't be scared



  • Serbian band 357
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBC4vtcA3I

    Do you know who loves you mightily?

    Do you know who loves you mightily?
    Who watches over you day and night?
    Who gives you abundantly,
    To resist devil's power?

    Do you know who gave you life?
    Father, mother, a brother of yours?
    And who illuminated you,
    With a brilliant ray of His Spirit?

    Do you know who died for us?
    On Golgotha, do you know?
    And who prepares,
    The promised joys for you, do you know?

    Do you know who loves you mightily?

    You ought to know who does all that,
    Who's the one that loves us so,
    It is Lord from above,
    It is Christ, Saviour for all!

    So you too, oh, remember,
    And give your heart to Him,
    When you wrong Him, burst in tears,
    And ask for forgiveness!

    In the tear of repentance
    Christ's shine shall glitter,
    Put your trust in Him,
    He shall open heaven to you!

    Do you know who loves you mightily?

    Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

    Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
    Ko te chuva dan i noch?
    Ko ti daye izobilno,
    Da odolish vragu moch?

    Znash li ko ti zhivot dao?
    Oca, mayku, brata tvog?
    I ko te je obasyao,
    Svetlim zrakom Duha svog?

    Znahs li ko ye umro za nas?
    Na Golgoti, znash li to?
    I radosti obechane,
    Ko ti sprema znash li to?

    Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

    Morash znati ko to chini,
    Ko to tako lyubi nas,
    To ye Gospod sa visine,
    To ye Hristos, svima Spas!

    Zato i ti, oh, seti se,
    Pa mu svoye srce day,
    Kad mu skrivish, zaplachi se,
    I zamoli oproshtay!

    U toj suzi pokajanja,
    Zablistache Hristov syay,
    Imay u Nyeg' pouzdanya,
    Otvoriche tebi Ray!



  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161725#msg161725 date=1354737402]
    Serbian band 357
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBC4vtcA3I

    Do you know who loves you mightily?

    Do you know who loves you mightily?
    Who watches over you day and night?
    Who gives you abundantly,
    To resist devil's power?

    Do you know who gave you life?
    Father, mother, a brother of yours?
    And who illuminated you,
    With a brilliant ray of His Spirit?

    Do you know who died for us?
    On Golgotha, do you know?
    And who prepares,
    The promised joys for you, do you know?

    Do you know who loves you mightily?

    You ought to know who does all that,
    Who's the one that loves us so,
    It is Lord from above,
    It is Christ, Saviour for all!

    So you too, oh, remember,
    And give your heart to Him,
    When you wrong Him, burst in tears,
    And ask for forgiveness!

    In the tear of repentance
    Christ's shine shall glitter,
    Put your trust in Him,
    He shall open heaven to you!

    Do you know who loves you mightily?

    Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

    Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
    Ko te chuva dan i noch?
    Ko ti daye izobilno,
    Da odolish vragu moch?

    Znash li ko ti zhivot dao?
    Oca, mayku, brata tvog?
    I ko te je obasyao,
    Svetlim zrakom Duha svog?

    Znahs li ko ye umro za nas?
    Na Golgoti, znash li to?
    I radosti obechane,
    Ko ti sprema znash li to?

    Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

    Morash znati ko to chini,
    Ko to tako lyubi nas,
    To ye Gospod sa visine,
    To ye Hristos, svima Spas!

    Zato i ti, oh, seti se,
    Pa mu svoye srce day,
    Kad mu skrivish, zaplachi se,
    I zamoli oproshtay!

    U toj suzi pokajanja,
    Zablistache Hristov syay,
    Imay u Nyeg' pouzdanya,
    Otvoriche tebi Ray!
    [/quote]

    Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161726#msg161726 date=1354741638]
    Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
    [/quote]
    Do you mean Church hymns ? 
    We (Eastern Orthodox) have big diaspora in USA so there is a lot of hymns in English, but sung by Greeks, Russians, Arabs... etc.
    Do you mean Serbian hymns in English? Or Eastern Orthodox hymns in English ?
    :)
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161727#msg161727 date=1354742648]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161726#msg161726 date=1354741638]
    Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
    [/quote]
    Do you mean Church hymns ? 
    We (Eastern Orthodox) have big diaspora in USA so there is a lot of hymns in English, but sung by Greeks, Russians, Arabs... etc.
    Do you mean Serbian hymns in English? Or Eastern Orthodox hymns in English ?
    :)
    [/quote]

    I meant Serbian.
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161728#msg161728 date=1354743103]
    I meant Serbian.
    [/quote]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8

  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161729#msg161729 date=1354744514]


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
    [/quote]

    interesting!
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161729#msg161729 date=1354744514]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161728#msg161728 date=1354743103]
    I meant Serbian.
    [/quote]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
    [/quote]

    This is beautiful! In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. (tasbeha in arabic (hint the name of the website)) This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161737#msg161737 date=1354762149]
    [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161729#msg161729 date=1354744514]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161728#msg161728 date=1354743103]
    I meant Serbian.
    [/quote]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
    [/quote]

    This is beautiful! In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. (tasbeha in arabic (hint the name of the website)) This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
    [/quote]

    Yes: Orthros
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161737#msg161737 date=1354762149]
    In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
    [/quote]

    [quote author=qawe link=topic=13977.msg161739#msg161739 date=1354773092]
    Yes: Orthros
    [/quote]

    If this is correct definition of Tasbeha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasbeha No, we don't have it.

    Do You have after the vesper in Saturday and before Liturgy in Sunday matins (=orthros) ?
    In that case Tasbeha is something different from orthros.
    In Serbia (Russia, Greece...) orthros and vespers are regularly daily services regardless of Liturgy.
    In Serbia and Russia we have in Saturday vigil (vesper and orthros joined) and we are coming in Sunday (in my Diocese at 9 am) and Liturgy starts immediately.
    In Greece in Saturday is only vesper, and in Sunday orthros followed by Liturgy.
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161743#msg161743 date=1354794445]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161737#msg161737 date=1354762149]
    In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
    [/quote]

    [quote author=qawe link=topic=13977.msg161739#msg161739 date=1354773092]
    Yes: Orthros
    [/quote]

    If this is correct definition of Tasbeha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasbeha No, we don't have it.

    Do You have after the vesper in Saturday and before Liturgy in Sunday matins (=orthros) ?
    In that case Tasbeha is something different from orthros.
    In Serbia (Russia, Greece...) orthros and vespers are regularly daily services regardless of Liturgy.
    In Serbia and Russia we have in Saturday vigil (vesper and orthros joined) and we are coming in Sunday (in my Diocese at 9 am) and Liturgy starts immediately.
    In Greece in Saturday is only vesper, and in Sunday orthros followed by Liturgy.
    [/quote]

    Here is our usual liturgical prayers. For our case I will use the Sunday's liturgy.

    It all starts saturday evening with Agpeya prayers (The Book of Hours) After that we have a set of chants that is called the Vespers Praises (evening tasbeha). Then we have the Vespers Prayers. After the Vespers Prayers, there is more prayers from the Book of Hours and then we start midnight prasies (Midnight tasbeha) The midnight tasbeha should last all night long. Then Sunday Morning we pray the first hour from the Book of Prayers and then we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers. At the end, there is the liturgy.
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161745#msg161745 date=1354803924]
    Then Sunday Morning... we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers.
    [/quote]
    This should be equivavalent to our Matins (= Orthros).
    So, no, we do not have Tasbeha.

    ps. First hour is in Serbia after Matins.
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161746#msg161746 date=1354804559]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161745#msg161745 date=1354803924]
    Then Sunday Morning... we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers.
    [/quote]
    This should be equivavalent to our Matins (= Orthros).
    So, no, we do not have Tasbeha.

    ps. First hour is in Serbia after Matins.
    [/quote]

    What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161747#msg161747 date=1354817662]
    What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
    [/quote]
    Orthros = Matins

    Yes, we have 1st, 3rd, 6th and 9th hour.
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161750#msg161750 date=1354822189]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161747#msg161747 date=1354817662]
    What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
    [/quote]
    Orthros = Matins

    Yes, we have 1st, 3rd, 6th and 9th hour.
    [/quote]

    Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161758#msg161758 date=1354829458]
    Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
    [/quote]
    How much I can see at the first glance, our hours have always only 3 psalms, and you have much more.
    Also, we do not read neither epistle nor Gospel on hours, and you do.

    Here is the text we use for hours:
    http://www.anastasis.org.uk/lesser_hours.htm


  • Troubles chasin me again,
    Breaking down my best defence,
    I'm looking, God, I'm looking for you
    Weary just won't let me rest, and fear is filling up my head.
    I'm longing, God I'm longing for you

    But I will find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end,
    Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness.
    You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty,
    When I am weak, when I am lost and searching
    I'll find you on my knees.

    So what if sorrow shakes my faith,
    What if heartache still remains,
    I'll trust you, my god I'll trust you.
    'Cas u are faithful and
    I will find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end,
    Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness.
    (From: http://www.elyrics.net)
    You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty,
    When I am weak, when I am lost and searching
    Find you on my knees, my knees.

    When my hope is gone, when the fear is strong
    When the pain is real, when it's hard to heal
    When my faith is shaken and my heart is broken and my joy is stolen, God I know that

    You lift me up, you'll never leave me searching,
    Find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end,
    Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness.
    You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty,
    When I am weak, when I am lost and searching
    I'll find you on my knees.
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161760#msg161760 date=1354830537]
    [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161758#msg161758 date=1354829458]
    Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
    [/quote]
    How much I can see at the first glance, our hours have always only 3 psalms, and you have much more.
    Also, we do not read neither epistle nor Gospel on hours, and you do.

    Here is the text we use for hours:
    http://www.anastasis.org.uk/lesser_hours.htm
    [/quote]

    Thank you so much Servos for spending time with us here. I have a few questions.
    I noticed the link you gave us describes the "lesser hours". Is there a "greater hours"? Is that called the "horologion"? The site also has a link to the "Midnight Office". Is this not equivalent to "tasbeha"?

    While we're on the subject of music, can you describe the tones? Does the Serbian church have octoechos? Do you also call them Kurios and Plagal? Can you give us a brief description?

    Thanks.
  • [quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13977.msg161855#msg161855 date=1355174898]
    [/quote]
    Dear Remnkemi, Copticandproud, Qawe... and others  :D
    I suggest that we continue this off topic here:
    http://tasbeha.org/content/community/index.php/topic,13979.0.html
    :D
    I am afraid that Mnc_hnn is maybe already angry because I spam his topic  :D :D :D
    I have the answers, just give me some time to consult the books.
  • no problem guys :)
  • Patiently waiting for your response Servos on this thread or the other. Thanks in advance.
  • Dear Mnc_hnn and others Coptic brothers and sisters,
    Do Copts have some pop music or hip-hop or any modern band and music group?
    If I searched the forum good, I find lot of Coptic music but only with religious motives.
    So, my question is, do we have some modern pop or rock or hip-hop or whatever Coptic bands ?
  • I don't know. To me, this question is like asking me to recite pharaonic songs...no idea whatsoever
  • [quote author=mnc_hnn link=topic=13977.msg162044#msg162044 date=1355701732]
    I don't know. To me, this question is like asking me to recite pharaonic songs...no idea whatsoever
    [/quote]

    Donot you technically recite Pharaonic songs when you recite the church Coptic hymns?
  • Pharaohs were BC...Christianity is more recent?
  • [quote author=mnc_hnn link=topic=13977.msg162078#msg162078 date=1355796773]
    Pharaohs were BC...Christianity is more recent?
    [/quote]

    I meant that some of the Coptic tunes and the Coptic language itself, supposedly, have their origins from Pharaonic tunes and language...
  • I wouldn't know, maybe
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg162042#msg162042 date=1355699170]
    Dear Mnc_hnn and others Coptic brothers and sisters,
    Do Copts have some pop music or hip-hop or any modern band and music group?
    If I searched the forum good, I find lot of Coptic music but only with religious motives.
    So, my question is, do we have some modern pop or rock or hip-hop or whatever Coptic bands ?
    [/quote]
    :o
  • [quote author=mabsoota link=topic=13977.msg162089#msg162089 date=1355858887]
    :o
    [/quote]
    Why are you shocked ? Did I asked something wrong ?
  • No Servos, you question is a very good question.

    Because the Coptic language and culture has been subsumed by the Arabic culture, except in the religious domain, it ceased to exist hundreds of years ago. Some cultures deal with a foreign sovereignty with resistance and keep a "pure" form of their identity. This is what happened to the Jewish culture. When Israel ceased to exist as a country, they fought to become a recognized country independent of foreign powers in the Middle East. Other cultures find a mix between old and new cultures. A good example is what you described about Serbian musical history (Old Serbian chant mixed with Western elements to simplify chanting). Other cultures completely identify with the new power as long as they find something substantial to differentiate them from the new culture. This is the case of the Copts. We never saw ourselves as a country within a country (like Israel). As long as we preserve religion untouched and uncorrupted, we had no problem adopting the Arabic culture, which includes music, language, food, mannerisms, politics, geography, etc.

    Because we preserved our religious music and language from Westernism (even though we did a bad job resisting Arabism in our religion), we have no problem accepting and internalizing non-religious cultural elements (to a certain point). That is why you will not find a modern non-religious Coptic song, band or literary work. You may find some ancient Coptic non-literary works (like legal documents, treaties, dictionaries from Dioscorus of Aphrodito in the 5th century) but nothing modern.

    I hoped this helped.
  • [quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=13977.msg162102#msg162102 date=1355925061]
    That is why you will not find a modern non-religious Coptic song, band or literary work.
    [/quote]
    Thanks a lot.

    Just one thing to clear, when you said there is no modern Coptic song, do you mean there  is no modern non-religious Coptic song performed by Copts in Arabic language ?

    I know that Coptic language is not any more in use by Copts, and that there is no non-religious Coptic song performed by Copts in Coptic language. That is clear.

    But, did you mean that there is no XX century literary works or songs in Arabic from Copts ?
  • Yes. I don't think there are any non-religious songs or works from Copts in Arabic in any significant amount. There may be one or two people who dabble in new productions but this is the exception and nothing is published (as far as I know). Original Arabic non-religious works are not done by Copts. I hope someone else can corroborate or give us evidence otherwise. I could be wrong.
  • Exceptions that proves the rule  :)
  • [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg162107#msg162107 date=1355933031]
    http://copticrock.blogspot.com/
    [/quote]

    This... uhh... almost funny lol I do not know what to think of this...
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg162111#msg162111 date=1355946859]
    [quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg162107#msg162107 date=1355933031]
    http://copticrock.blogspot.com/
    [/quote]

    This... uhh... almost funny lol I do not know what to think of this...
    [/quote]

    :o

    they do funny things with the music!
    sounds dodgy.
    just my biased, unspiritual personal opinion...

    if u want nice songs with a good drum beat u should write new ones, not do terrible sounding things to some old ones!
  • [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg162111#msg162111 date=1355946859]
    This... uhh... almost funny lol I do not know what to think of this...
    [/quote]
    I liked them, especially Coptic Soldier.

    But I'm admirer of everything Coptic, so maybe I'm biased too  :)

    Mnc_hnn, tell us your opinion  :)
  • I couldn't open the links because i don't have flash player


    But just wanted to share this

    http://youtu.be/sJoI3yw-O9o
  • [quote author=mnc_hnn link=topic=13977.msg162219#msg162219 date=1356500888]
    But just wanted to share this

    http://youtu.be/sJoI3yw-O9o
    [/quote]
    Excellent!
    What is the song about? Religious motive?
  • It's an Arabic hymn


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