The Apostles

edited December 1969 in Faith Issues
I was wondering if the Apostles were just the 12 chosen by Jesus or if St. Paul, St. Mark, St. Luke... are also Apostles. If they are could you tell me some more Apostles and their sayings/ where to get their sayings. Thanks

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  • Hey,

    the 12 appointed by Jesus Christ were the 12 Disciples. As for St. Mark, he was one of the 70 Apostles appointed by Jesus Christ as well. Paul the Apostle was not one of the 70 neither was he one of the 12 though. Because he came after Jesus Christ's Ressurection and Ascension and the Pentecost.


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  • Volbrlorx,
    The 12 chosen by Jesus were his disciples. St. Mark was just one of the 70 apostles also chosen. So the 12 and their fates were:

    1. Andrew - crucified
    2. Bartholomew - beaten then crucified
    3. James, son of Alphaeus - stoned to death
    4. James, son of Zebedee - beheaded
    5. John, Christ's most loved disciple - exiled for his faith, died of old age
    6. Judas (not Iscariot) - stoned to death
    7. Matthew - speared to death
    8. Peter - crucified upside down
    9. Phillip - crucified
    10. Simon - crucified
    11. Thomas - speared to death
    12. Matthias (chosen by lot to replace Judas Iscariot) - stoned to death

    {source: http://everystudent.com/wires/apostles.html}

    In my next post, I will write to you the names of the 70 Apostles and their fates.

    I kneel at your feet: O our Lady of us all, the Mother of God: Ask Christ on our behalf: that He may forgive us our sins.
    - Chris
  • Can you please name some other of the 70 Apostles and their sayings/ where to find them
  • This is related by Bishop (the seventieth) Dorotheus of Tyre who was one of the seventy and also a pious martyr in the reign of Emperors Licinius and Constantine. He wrote on various subjects in Greek and Latin and after the deaths of Diocletian and Licinius, Julian "the torturer" came to power and killed Christians secretly to avoid public censure. Dorotheus journeyed to the city of Odessus where he was seized on Julian’s orders and after suffering torture, but still confessing Christ, he died as a martyr in his advanced age. He speaks of "seventy apostles and disciples of Christ" who were bishops and who St. Paul mentions by salutations in his epistles. After the Resurrection he found all of the names and thus recorded them for posterity. They are as follows:


    1. JACOB , first bishop of Jerusalem, who was ordained by the Lord Himself, whose head was crushed by a whiffletree and he died.

    2. CLEOPAS was the second bishop of Jerusalem like Simeon; he saw the Lord after the resurrection, and died crucified by Emperor Dometian.

    3. THADDEUS , who carried the letter to Avgar in Edessa: he cured the latter of his illness.

    4. ANANIAS , who baptized the holy Apostle Paul, was bishop of Damascus.

    5. STEPHEN , the first martyr, died after being stoned by the Jews.

    6. PHILIP , one of the seven [deacons], who baptized Simon the sorcerer and Canalace’s eunuch, was bishop of Asian Tralia.

    7. PROCHORUS , also one of the seven, was bishop of Bithynian Nicomedia.

    8. NICANOR , one of the seven, died on the same day as Saint
    Stephen , together with two thousand believers in Christ.

    9. TIMON , one of the seven, was bishop of the island of Arbia, and died after being burned by the Hellenes.

    10. PARMENAS , also one of the seven, died in front of the apostles’ eyes while he was serving.

    11. NICOLAS , also one of the seven, was bishop of Samaria; but he deviated from the true faith together with Simon.

    12. BARNABAS , who served the Word together with Paul, and preached Christ in peace, was bishop of Milan.

    13. MARK the Evangelist was ordained bishop of Alexandria by the Apostle Peter.

    14. SILAS who preached the Gospel together with Paul, was bishop of Corinth.

    15. LUKE , who preached the Gospel all over the world together with Paul, was bishop of Salonika. Luke the Evangelist came from Syrian Antioch, and went to Macedonian Thebes as a doctor during the reign of Emperor Trajan. He first wrote the holy Gospel to a certain ruler Theophilus, who believed in Christ. Then, many years after the passion of our Lord, and the holy Apostle Peter having commanded him to narrate the acts of the holy apostles, Saint Luke narrated the acts of the holy apostles to the same TheophiIus, And having done this, he gave up his soul to God in peace; and thus he died in Thebes. His holy relics were translated from Thebes to the church of the Holy Apostles, and were layed under the altar table.

    16. SILVANUS , who preached the Gospel together with bishop of Salonika.

    17. CRISPUS , whom the apostle (Paul) mentions in his epistle to Timothy, was bishop of Galilean Chalcedon.

    18. EPENETUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle Romans, was bishop of Carthage.

    19. ANDRONICUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Pannonia.

    20. AMPLIAS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans. was bishop of Odissa.

    21. URBAN, whom the apostle mentions in the epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Macedonia.

    22. STACHYS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans; when Andrew the apostle, traversing the sea of Hellespont, reached Agricopolis, he ordained Stachys as bishop of Byzantium.

    23. APELLES , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Heraklion.

    24. PHYGELLUS was bishop of Ephesus; later he converted to Simon’s teaching.

    25. HERMOGENES was bishop of Thracian Megara.

    26. DEMAS , whom the apostle mentions in his second epistle to Timothy, opposed the teaching of God just as Phygellus and Hermogenes did; Demas loved this present world and in Salonika was a priest of the idols; he was one of whom the apostle John writes: they came from us, but were not one of us.

    27. APOLLOS, whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Smyrna before Saint Polycarpus.

    28. ARISTOBULUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Britannia.

    29. NARCISSUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Athens.

    30. HERODION , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Patfas.

    31. AGABUS , who is mentioned in the acts of the apostles, who received the gift of prophecy.

    32. RUFUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Thebes.

    33. ASYNCRITUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Hyrcania.

    34. PHLEGON , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Colossians, was bishop of Marathon.

    35. HERMAS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Dalmatia.

    36. PATROBAS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Pottole.

    37. HERMES , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Philipopolis.

    38. LINUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Rome after the holy apostle Peter.

    39. GAIUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Ephesus after the apostle Timotheus.

    40. PHILOGOGUS , whom the apostle [Paul] mentions, was ordained bishop of Sinope by Andrew the apostle.

    41. RODION , whom the apostle mentions, was beheaded by Nero in Rome, together with the holy apostle Peter.

    42. LUCIUS , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Syrian Laodicea.

    43. JASON , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Tarsis.

    44. SOSIPATER , whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Iconium.

    45. TERTIUS , who wrote the epistle to the Romans, was the second bishop of Iconium.

    46. ERASTUS , whom the apostle mentions, was chamberlain of the church in Jerusalem; later he was bishop of Paneas.

    47. APOLLOS , whom the apostle mentions to the Corinthians, was bishop of Caesarea.

    48. CEPHAS was bishop of Iconium.

    49. SOSTHENES , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Colophon.

    50. TYCHICUS . whom the apostle mentions, was also bishop of Colophon.

    51. EPAPHRAS , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Andriaca.

    52. CAESAR , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop in Dyrrhachium.

    53. MARK , the nephew of Barnabas, whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Apollonias.

    54. JESUS , called Justus, whom the apostle mentions in the Acts, was bishop of Eleutheropolis.

    55. ARTEMUS , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Lystra.

    56. CLEMENT , whom the apostle mentions, saying: “and with Clement, and with my other fellowworkers,” was bishop of Sardice.

    57. ONESIPHORUS , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Cyrene.

    58. TYCHICUS , whom the apostle mentions, was the first bishop of Bithynian Chalcedon.

    59. QUARTUS , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Berytus.

    60. CARPUS , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Thracian Berrhoe.

    61. EUODIUS was bishop of Antioch after Saint Peter.

    62. ARISTARCHUS , whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Syrian Apamea.

    63. MARK , called John, who is mentioned by Luke in the Acts, was bishop of Byblos.

    64.ZENAS the lawyer, whom the apostle mentions, was bishop of Giospolis.

    65. PHILEMON , to whom the apostle Paul wrote an epistle, was bishop of Gaza.

    66. Another ARISTARCHUS,

    67. PUDENS ,

    68. TROPHIMUS : these three suffered together with the apostle Paul through all his persecutions; in the end they were beheaded in Rome by Emperor Nero.

    69. ONESIMUS died in Potiole at the hands of the Roman ruler Tertillus.


    {source: http://www.angelfire.com/alt/scm/seventy.html}

    Hail to my masters and fathers: the apostles: Hail to the disciples: of our Lord, Jesus Christ.
    - Chris


  • I thank you both so much for all that you both have posted but i still have one more question what are some of these Apostles/Disciples sayings and noone know do you where i can find them. thanks again.
  • 1. JACOB , brother of the Lord, first bishop of Jerusalem, who was ordained by the Lord Himself, whose head was crushed by a whiffletree and he died.

    [glow=pink,2,300]brother of the Lord[/glow] ??? ???
  • are there any sites or books anyone knows of to find sayings of the Apostles or does anyone know any by heart?
  • Wasim,
    When I was typing that, I didn't understand it either. It's right from that site I referenced. I don't know why they said that, but I think it's best if I take it off now because, after all, Christ had no siblings in the sense we know.

    But back to vlorblorx's question:

    [quote author=volblorx8633 link=board=1;threadid=355;start=0#msg4208 date=1087852699]
    are there any sites or books anyone knows of to find sayings of the Apostles or does anyone know any by heart?


    - Chris
  • brother back then also ment cousin. Jacob/James (i think they r both the same) was the son of St.Mary's sister.
  • What is the definition of "apostle"?
  • Im really truly sorry if I'm being rude but I've trying to find this stuff out for a while so does anyone know where to find sayings/ know sayings
  • The Confessions of St. Augustine is an amazinggg book if you're looking for sayings of one of the greatest fathers of the church..
  • Thanks, I'll be sure to get the book. But I am specifically looking for sayings of the Apostles.
  • Vorlbronx,
    I found this site, but just as the Coptic Scrolls of Nag Hammadi, and the "Lost Gospels" are controversial, I don't know of the validity of these writings.

    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/

    -Chris
  • NorthernCross,
    The word "Apostle", from the Greek apostello "to send forth", "to dispatch", has etymologically a very general sense. Apostolos (Apostle) means one who is sent forth, dispatched--in other words, who is entrusted with a mission, rather, a foreign mission. It has, however, a stronger sense than the word messenger, and means as much as a delegate. In the classical writers the word is not frequent. In the Greek version of the Old Testament it occurs once, in III Kings, xiv, 6 (cf. ibid., xii, 24). In the New Testament, on the contrary, it occurs, according to Bruder's Concordance, about eighty times, and denotes often not all the disciples of the Lord, but some of them specially called. It is obvious that our Lord, who spoke an Aramaic dialect, gave to some of his disciples an Aramaic title, the Greek equivalent of which was "Apostle". It seems to us that there is no reasonable doubt about the Aramaic word being seliah, by which also the later Jews, and probably already the Jews before Christ, denoted "those who were dispatched from the mother city by the rulers of the race on any foreign mission, especially such as were charged with collecting the tribute paid to the temple service" (Lightfoot, "Galatians", London, 1896, p. 93). The word apostle would be an exact rendering of the root of the word seliah,= apostello.

    {source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01626c.htm}

    In Christ Jesus Our God,
    - Chris
  • Thanks and God bless you, Banoub!
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