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Matthew 16, Matthew 18 and John 20

copt_believercopt_believer
edited April 2011 in Coptic Orthodox Church
Matthew 16:15-19
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
Matthew 18:18
Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
John 20:21-23
So Jesus said to them again, “Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
1) My understanding is that the power to confer or to withhold forgiveness is the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Is this correct?

2) Since Jesus told the disciples "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven", is it correct to say that the disciples also received the keys of the kingdom of heaven, even though Jesus used these words "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven" in Matthew 16 to Peter but not in Matthew 18 to the disciples?

3) When were the keys given to Peter? Jesus says to Peter (in Matthew 16:19) "I will give you the keys", which seems like it can be interpreted to mean He will do so in future?

Were they given to Peter when Jesus said "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven” in Matthew 16:19?

Or did Peter receive the keys later with the other disciples in Matthew 18:18?

Or after the Resurrection of Jesus in John 20:21-23

4) When Jesus told the disciples that “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven" in Matthew 18:18?

Did the disciples receive this power at that time or after the Resurrection of Jesus in John 20:21-23

Comments

  • copt_believercopt_believer
    Interestingly, St Augustine in his book On Christian Doctrine (Book I), states

    He has given, therefore, the keys to His Church, that whatsoever it should bind on earth might be bound in heaven, and whatsoever it should loose on earth might be loosed in heaven; that is to say, that whosoever in the Church should not believe that his sins are remitted, they should not be remitted to him; but that whosoever should believe and should repent, and turn from his sins, should be saved by the same faith and repentance on the ground of which he is received into the bosom of the Church. For he who does not believe that his sins can be pardoned, falls into despair, and becomes worse as if no greater good remained for him than to be evil, when he has ceased to have faith in the results of his own repentance.

    http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/12021.htm
  • imikhailimikhail
    1) My understanding is that the power to confer or to withhold forgiveness is the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Is this correct?
    Yes. Since sin is the barrier to heaven and forgiveness is through confession and getting absolution, then the apostles and those who came after them from bishops are the ones who hold the keys to heaven.

    Since Jesus told the disciples "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven", is it correct to say that the disciples also received the keys of the kingdom of heaven, even though Jesus used these words "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven" in Matthew 16 to Peter but not in Matthew 18 to the disciples?
    Jesus was asking all his disciples as to what the people think of Him. Peter, being enthusiastic, answered faithfully that He was the Christ. In return, Jesus told Him that upon this faith He would establish His Kingdom. Obviously, those who would carry the message were the disciples and were the ones to baptize and to give absolutions.

    The notion that it was only Peter who received the keys at this moment is incorrect. First, in verse 20, He told His disciples not to reveal Him as being the Messiah meaning that all of them were believers. It just happened that Peter to be the first one to pronounce the faith. Second, faith was a prerequisite to getting the keys as explained and all disciples had that faith. So, it would be unfair to give one disciple the keys and not the other. Second, moments after telling Peter that He would give him the keys, Jesus addressed him as Satan. Why? Because he lost the faith he just professed.

  • imikhailimikhail
    3) When were the keys given to Peter? Jesus says to Peter (in Matthew 16:19) "I will give you the keys", which seems like it can be interpreted to mean He will do so in future?

    Were they given to Peter when Jesus said "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven” in Matthew 16:19?

    Or did Peter receive the keys later with the other disciples in Matthew 18:18?

    Or after the Resurrection of Jesus in John 20:21-23


    The future sense in the phrase “I will give you” is not a correct translation according to the Coptic one which equates to “I give you” with an assurance.

    Again the notion that only Peter received the keys is an incorrect interpretation as explained in the previous post.
    Let me further explain, Jesus was addressing his disciples, in 18:18, including Peter for he was present during the events of verse 18. If we assume that Peter was the only one to receive the keys in verse 16:19, did Jesus give him the keys again in verse 18:18? Of course not, Jesus had no special treatment of Peter in both incidents.

    Now did Jesus give the authority to the disciples to bind before or after His resurrection? Both, during His ministry and after his resurrection  as they were to carry on His ministry after His ascension.
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