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Shocking News!! Voice of Copts want to Arrest Mubarak!!!!???
Can someone explain this to me?
http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=2608
Philadelphia: February 4, 2011. (PCP) Dr. Nazir S Bhatti, Chief of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC urged US administration to consider due participation of Coptic Christian in new transitional power structure of Egypt.
“It is surprising that Coptic Christian being 15% of population of Egypt are entirely forgotten in new power sharing formula” said Dr. Bhatti
The Coptic Christians are a persecuted community and face violence by extremists Muslims on religion grounds and its very important that when Egypt is shaping up for new democratic era Coptic Christian’s participation can shape Egypt as real democratic state said Nazir Bhatti
PCC Chief waned that any transitional council formed comprising of Egyptian military generals shall fall short to comply with democratic norms but a council in participation with political parties and Coptic Christians shall be a way forward to true spirit of democracy.
It will be very important to bring Muslim Brotherhood in mainstream democratic process and given participation in transitional team to lineout legal framework and responsibilities of every political and religious group in Egypt.
Nazir Bhatti said “Pakistani Christians have grave concerns for Coptic Christians and rising violence against them on hands of radical Muslims and now its time to protect their rights of religious freedom through setting their constitutional equal rights.
Meanwhile, Voice of Copts, a representative body of Coptic Christians Diaspora in USA, also having office in Italy have given an international call to arrest Mubarak.
Dr. Ashraf Ramelah, President of Voice of Copts have issues a press statement saying that in light of the information reaching our office that the Egyptian regime has escalated violence against demonstrators and foreigner journalists.
Voice of the Copts strongly condemns the use of weapons by regime police and Special Forces in plain clothes who are riding horses and camels to control the crowds in El- Tahrir square.
The failing dictator and his regime have shown their true neo- Nazi face as he uses violence against his own people to protect his own interests.
After thirty years under the rule of an oppressive fascist regime the demonstrators which are now asking for their freedom in the streets must have the support of the entire free world.
The safety of the Egyptian people as well as the historic treasure of ancient Egypt which have now been vandalized by the hand of the Mubarak regime is the responsibility of the entire free world.
Voice of the Copts demands an international coalition to intervene immediately to protect Egyptian civilians and to arrest Mubarak along with his neo-Nazi regime members and bring them to international criminal court.
Furthermore, we ask the entire world leaders to close all Egyptian diplomatic offices in their countries because the actual Egyptian embassies personnel are part of Mubarak's neo-Nazi regime, and they are not representative of the Egyptian people.
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What on earth!!!???
Is this for real?
http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=2608
Philadelphia: February 4, 2011. (PCP) Dr. Nazir S Bhatti, Chief of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC urged US administration to consider due participation of Coptic Christian in new transitional power structure of Egypt.
“It is surprising that Coptic Christian being 15% of population of Egypt are entirely forgotten in new power sharing formula” said Dr. Bhatti
The Coptic Christians are a persecuted community and face violence by extremists Muslims on religion grounds and its very important that when Egypt is shaping up for new democratic era Coptic Christian’s participation can shape Egypt as real democratic state said Nazir Bhatti
PCC Chief waned that any transitional council formed comprising of Egyptian military generals shall fall short to comply with democratic norms but a council in participation with political parties and Coptic Christians shall be a way forward to true spirit of democracy.
It will be very important to bring Muslim Brotherhood in mainstream democratic process and given participation in transitional team to lineout legal framework and responsibilities of every political and religious group in Egypt.
Nazir Bhatti said “Pakistani Christians have grave concerns for Coptic Christians and rising violence against them on hands of radical Muslims and now its time to protect their rights of religious freedom through setting their constitutional equal rights.
Meanwhile, Voice of Copts, a representative body of Coptic Christians Diaspora in USA, also having office in Italy have given an international call to arrest Mubarak.
Dr. Ashraf Ramelah, President of Voice of Copts have issues a press statement saying that in light of the information reaching our office that the Egyptian regime has escalated violence against demonstrators and foreigner journalists.
Voice of the Copts strongly condemns the use of weapons by regime police and Special Forces in plain clothes who are riding horses and camels to control the crowds in El- Tahrir square.
The failing dictator and his regime have shown their true neo- Nazi face as he uses violence against his own people to protect his own interests.
After thirty years under the rule of an oppressive fascist regime the demonstrators which are now asking for their freedom in the streets must have the support of the entire free world.
The safety of the Egyptian people as well as the historic treasure of ancient Egypt which have now been vandalized by the hand of the Mubarak regime is the responsibility of the entire free world.
Voice of the Copts demands an international coalition to intervene immediately to protect Egyptian civilians and to arrest Mubarak along with his neo-Nazi regime members and bring them to international criminal court.
Furthermore, we ask the entire world leaders to close all Egyptian diplomatic offices in their countries because the actual Egyptian embassies personnel are part of Mubarak's neo-Nazi regime, and they are not representative of the Egyptian people.
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What on earth!!!???
Is this for real?
Comments
Participation of the Coptic Christians in Egypt would be welcome by all Copts in case the MB reach a status of becoming officially approved - but it's not a practical approach since the majority of Egyptians do not approve pure religion-based political parties. Many Egyptians who are Christians are in fact members within the currently different active political parties.
As for the 'voice of Copts' let me tell you:
- When did you ever ask this group to represent all of the diaspora? We didn't anyway.
- Christians are not persecuted by Mubarak who intervened in person on numerous occasions to help get many of our rights, but by the extremists who have also infiltrated the leading positions in the previous police system, whose sticky previous minister and his team are now blocked, under arrest and being interrogated for high treason conspiracy charges.
- About the few horses and camels, they came from a close by touristic village to help convince the protesters to leave Tahrir square because their tourism business was seriously affected.
Why do you let propaganda work out its dubious agenda on you without concrete confirmation?
GBU
“It is surprising that Coptic Christian being 15% of population of Egypt are entirely forgotten in new power sharing formula” said Dr. Bhatti
Exactly, this was my thought too!
Look at the BBC, CNN and Co. there is nothing reported about the Coptic case. You don't see Coptic guests represented in talk-shows or interviews. They seem to forget that the New Year massacre at Alexanderia was the driving motor behind all the current uprisings in the so-called "Arab World". What a pathetic world!
"Muslims Attack Two Christian Families in Egypt, 11 Killed"
http://www.aina.org/news/20110202205758.htm
but I will tell you this... prove what you are saying!
CNN says things... Egyptian News says one thing... Al Jazeera News says one thing (and also mentions "all together with the fall of Egypt" on their website, and prove... they actually apologized about it)
the truth is in the middle somewhere, but you have to look through the lies of both medias... and search for the right news yourself, buy talking to Egyptians, and seeing what they say.
otherwise dont throw allegations at a person, when you cannot prove what you say!
neshkor Allah akhadna el baraka...
Everyone I hear from Egypt says that those protesting and appearing on the Western news are a small minority of the population.
I do not trust the Western media at all. I do not trust their analysis. I do not trust their agenda. The could not care less what happens in Egypt.
Proof that pro-Mubarak thugs are paid: http://observers.france24.com/content/20110204-i-was-paid-5000-pounds-wreak-havoc-cairo-protests-egypt-mubarak-baltgias
The Mubarak government has used resistance to democracy that is typical and predictable of dictatorships. Just look at an example of this regime's brutality:
and even worse:
Also, Fater Peter, with all due respect I believe I believe you are gravely wrong; Over 5 million combined people came out yesterday to protest against the regime in Egypt, how is this not a popular movement? Btw, blaming the media, foreigners and islamists sounds a lot like the Egyptian propaganda that I have found characteristic of Communist Russia, China and Nazi Germany.
I find it insulting and appalling that some people here are criticizing the protesters when all they've done is ask for a new leader, he's been there for 30 yrs, this is a democracy not a kingdom, there have been 5 US presidents during that time and look at where they are and where Egyptians are.
and I can easily call any news room and say I was paid 200 dollars for every time I post pro Mubarak posts on this website called Tasbeha.org... is it true?! they will show the story... they will write about the story!!!
plus the second video, this car was among the people... it was from among them, and the camera was focused on it the whole time, because of the cameraman's prophetic videography!
again we all agree news is not to be trusted, so get solid proof, court cases, anything that was identified as wrong, and if the president did so much, you shouldn't have a hard time finding them.
neshkor Allah, akhadna el baraka
Let me tell you that democracy is not the answer to the world's problems. Indeed more often than not it merely aggravates already problematic situations. It took 400 years for the democracy in England to reach the state it is in now, and it is not very healthy or democractic at all.
Democracy cannot just be switched on in a country. Hitler came to power through democracy.
Everyone has the right to fight if they choose, bearing in mind the Christian faith.
The issue is whether getting rid of Mubarek will make things better or worse. A whole lot of people think that doing so precipitantly will make things much worse. Egypt is NOT one of the Eastern European states. It has a majority Islamic population not a majority Christian one. That is a very different ball game.
also this "dictator" said he will leave the presidency when his term is over, which will be in September... then why are they still protesting? if they were bearing with him for the past 30 years, why not for a few months until elections... and have him depart the right way as a president who devoted his life for his country... did they not do that to the king farou' when he left power?
everything will happen if people use common sense, if they compromise, if they look for the well being of the country.
p.s. I did live in Egypt, all of my family lives in Egypt... and what I say is what they also say!
neshkor Allah, akhadna el baraka.