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JFranklin I don’t know what else to say to you. You seem entirely reluctant on making this conversation an intellectual one
Facts are facts Mr. Franklin
I have nothing against protestants, I disagree with many of their beliefs and I do not believe them to be a legitimate church, but, I still respect them and their beliefs.
I don’t know what is wrong with your culture or society to make you this way, but it is dangerous for everyone in the world to have people this unworldly with so many nuclear bombs.
Finally, I have had enough of this topic. It has done nothing but make me angry and behave in a way that Beshoy rightly describes as unchristian
That Americans really are as ignorant and incompetent as the rest of the world jokingly pretends they are
. Finally, I have had enough of this topic. It has done nothing but make me angry and behave in a way that Beshoy rightly describes as unchristian.
ORDER IN CONGRESS, ORDER IN CONGRESS! (sorry, i really couldnt resist )
Each of us has his or her own speculation based on their own reasoning and observations, but at the end of the day only God knows for sure. So lets leave the decision to He who knows, lets just pray that He guides us to the right decision
as for this Church vs. Church discussions, my brothers, please refrain from bringing them up. they are truly unnecessary, and it hurts me to read these words that are being said. As our Pope once said, (rephrased), "while the theologians are all debating the different aspects of theology, the simple people are going to heaven." in the same spirit, lets stop criticizing the different denominations, and focus on our own faith and spreading the Word. What matters is that one stays strong in his or her own faith, and struggles and toils for our Lord Jesus Christ until his or her very last breath. Let Him do the judging and deciding on which Church is true, and on who will receive His GIFT of salvation. For at the end of the day, NONE of us are worthy of the blood He shed for us.
If by most a million die in Iraq every year,
When George Bush had a chance on a national platform to be a leader on this great moral issue of abortion…GEORGE BUSH WAFFLED!! GEORGE BUSH WEASELED AND FLOPPED ON THE ABORTION ISSUE!!
I am shocked by your reply...I am sorry if I offeneded you in anyway and I hope you forgive me
I am very sensitive to anybody even MENTIONING anything mean or false about my Priest or the Pope or any of our respected holy Clergy.
Actually, i really feel that this country was founded on protestant beliefs. Puritan beliefs and calvanism to be exact. These people came here because they were escaping religious persecution. White Anglo-Saxon Protestants are the people that created the government and society. There may have been explorers of different faiths but they had almost nothing to do with the shaping of our nation. That doesn't mean that they are not important. Also, orthodoxy existed in Alaska because the united states purchased alaska from Russia. I don't think that any one religion should be making claims to the U.S, but this country WAS founded on Protestant beliefs and we should never ignore the values of our forefathers. GB.
Which values do you consider worth keeping: the value that people who weren't white are 3/5th human, the value that women shouldn't vote, the value that only their brand of Christianity should be tolerated, or some other value?
I agree, this country was created by people who happened to be Puritan and Calvinist, but so what, they were also racist and bigoted
If you read your first statement, even you stated that the US was supported by "secular-humanist" France, which means this isn't a Christian country
I disagree with your debate technique Franklin. When shown that the US isn't and has never been perfect, and that our founding fathers weren't saints, you don't try to prove your point.
I agree other countries have done bad things historically as well, but these countries aren't claiming to espouse Christian or any other religious view.
Some in the US are saying that this country is a Judeo-Christian country, well prove it.